"Cellarable" beers you wish you never cellared?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by RBassSFHOPit2ME, Jun 17, 2014.

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  1. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    It seems these days with beer geeks Imperial Stouts (Bourbon Barrel aged or not) Barleywines & Strong Ales, this or that "would benefit with age."

    Which of these have you wished you would have never put more than 6 months or a year on??

    I'll start:

    Fruet & Bois
    Parabola (and most everything barrel aged Firestone Walker over a year)
    Everything Lagunitas "ageable" (Impy Stout, Gnarleywine etc...)

    I'm not trying for a schitt-storm here. Obviously with many highly regarded beers on here, they benefit with years and years of age. Just a good healthy debate.

    Go!
     
  2. Comparison_Ford

    Comparison_Ford Maven (1,293) Apr 4, 2014 New York

    BCBCS is 1,000x better fresh, in my humble opinion.
     
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  3. Masters

    Masters Savant (1,217) Mar 7, 2014 Massachusetts

    I just had a 2012 Double DBA and it was better than fresh
     
  4. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    Fresh BCBS 2013 = Perfect Beer IMHO. Great post.
     
  5. Comparison_Ford

    Comparison_Ford Maven (1,293) Apr 4, 2014 New York

    Agreed. That beer will haunt me for the rest of my life. Incredible.
     
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  6. tobelerone

    tobelerone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,220) Dec 1, 2010 New Jersey
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    Most high abv and barrel aged beers... They may not get worse but they often don't get better. Palates need to learn to handle the stronger beers or just stick to lighter fare. Funny when people complain about a 15% barrel aged stout being "too hot." Well duh.
     
  7. Thehuntmaster

    Thehuntmaster Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2009 South Africa

    To me, Fruet got better and better with age (I wish I hadn't recently drank my last bottle).

    I guess most will not agree, but Rare sucked after a few years in the bottle :slight_frown:
     
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  8. t8000shx

    t8000shx Zealot (588) Mar 2, 2004 New York
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    Fairly recently held a full vertical BCBS tasting, '05-'13 with the variants, and while I don't regret cellaring them, it seemed pretty clear to everyone there that 4-5 years was the sweet spot. No point in going beyond that. And the benefits from aging to the 4-5 year mark, while apparent, weren't totally-blown-mind amazing. Definitely wouldn't mind just drinking them fresh each year.

    That said, interestingly enough, the Rare was uniformly determined to be the best beer at the tasting. There were a number of people there who are not at all into craft beer and had no association with Rare who shared this opinion (so not really blind tasting per se, but certainly a more neutral opinion). So aged Rare universally loved, but of course that's not to say it's better than it was fresh.

    Agreed with whoever said that BA FW beers don't age well - they are great when fresh.

    I've been loving Fruet, but interestingly not sure I'm enjoying what's going on with Bois. Maybe it's because Fruet and Sucre are both intensely smooth and rich by comparison, but there's some mild tartness (not infection-type, I suspect from the solera-induced oxidation) in Bois that I don't love.

    And I know this is going to be unpopular, but I recently opened an Armand & Tomme that, while tasty, might as well have been a Cantillon Classic. Having had A&T and been blown away by it at the official release in Copenhagen, it seems age has not done anything special for it.
     
  9. kevanb

    kevanb Pooh-Bah (2,705) Apr 4, 2011 Illinois
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    This is a ridiculous and absurd statement. There are plenty of beers at 15%+ where the alcohol is hidden masterfully, perhaps a light warming sensation as it goes down, but nothing like "heat" from alcohol that just burns as you smell and/or taste it. As such, a complaint about a beer being "too hot" is completely warranted, it's a significant detracting factor for me.
     
  10. tobelerone

    tobelerone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,220) Dec 1, 2010 New Jersey
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    Fair enough, and I actually agree - on occasion. My new found love of Bourbon in general has, I think, raised my alcohol burn threshold a good deal over the past year or so to the point where I don't mind a "hot" beer much anymore, as long as it's not stylistically inappropriate.
     
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  11. Gotti311

    Gotti311 Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2009 Wisconsin
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    I started a vertical of Expedition and recently tried 2011-2013. The fresh beer is so amazing and complex, so many more flavors come through. Even after 1 year it had mellowed out so much and really lost its punch. I still have 2 of the same verticals going and need to decide what to do with them.

    Also did a 2013 to 2014 KBS comparison and I pretty much knew better, but I had to try it. Will be cranking through the rest of my 2014 bottles immediately.
     
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