Jester King Del Rey

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  1. Daemose

    Daemose Maven (1,407) Oct 3, 2011 Texas

    Jester King just posted an article about their Fantome collaboration. I can't wait to try it. I like that it looks like Josh C. still did the artwork.

    Needless to say it's not available here.

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    We’re excited to announce a new collaboration beer we brewed with Brasserie Fantôme in Soy, Belgium called Fantôme Del Rey. Brewing with Fantôme was an incredible honor for us, especially for our Head Brewer Garrett Crowell, who has long loved and been highly influenced by the remarkable beers brewed by Dany Prignon at Fantôme. We analogize our brew day with Fantôme to Garrett getting to go onstage and play guitar with his rock idol!

    If you follow our brewery, you know we have complete openness about our recipes and techniques. We routinely share recipes and beer making tips with homebrewers looking to clone our beers. However this time around, in deference to the mystery and intrigue that has always shrouded Fantome, we’re going to be a little secretive as to how Fantôme Del Rey was made.

    What isn’t a secret unfortunately is that this beer will not be making it to our native Texas. Beer laws in Texas are heavily slanted against out of state brewers, especially small ones. We’ve written extensively in the past about how Texas sends the message to small, artisan breweries located abroad that they’re not wanted here. Texas requires that small, out of state breweries, many of which would only sell a few dozen cases of beer in Texas a year, pay thousands of dollars in licensing fees, fill out onerous paperwork, and submit each beer for laboratory testing. When faced with these hurdles, small breweries abroad simply chose to sell their beer elsewhere. That’s why we can’t currently buy beer in Texas from Fantôme, Cantillion, Drie Fonteinen, Tilquin, Brasserie De Blaugies or several of the other small, artisan breweries that inspired us to make beer in the first place. It’s not even legal for these beers to be poured at beer festivals in Texas. We’d love to have a proper beer festival at Jester King that puts these small, artisanal breweries on display, plus beer from many other small breweries you may have never even heard of yet. Unfortunately, Texas requires large licensing fees, extensive paperwork and lab testing even for beer to be poured at a festival. We of course hope this reality will change during the next legislative session in Texas in 2015.

    Despite our disappointment with how Texas treats small, out of state breweries and the fact that Fantôme Del Rey won’t make it to Texas, we’re very excited about our collaboration beer with Fantôme. It will end up being distributed throughout parts of Europe and the United States. Again, it was an honor for us to brew with one of our most cherished, inspirational breweries in the world. We also look forward to possibly making a Texas-brewed version of Fantôme Del Rey in the future at Jester King!

    Here are some photos from our brew day with Fantôme:

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    Dany Prignon and Garrett Crowell brewing Fantome Del Rey

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    Adrienne Ballou, Garrett Crowell, Dany Prignon

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    Mashing in

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    (l-r) Josh Cockrell, Jeffrey Stuffings, Garrett Crowell, Dany Prignon, Adrienne Ballou, Ron Extract, Amber Watts, Eric Kukla, Averie Swanson, Michael Steffing

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  2. jesterkingbeer

    jesterkingbeer Pundit (865) Jun 28, 2010 Texas

    Yes. Josh Cockrell did the artwork. I can't confirm it, but we want to brew Fantôme Del Rey here at Jester King in the future, so it can reach the Texas market. - Jeff
     
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  3. PatrickInAustinTx

    PatrickInAustinTx Savant (1,088) Nov 16, 2013 Texas
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    Guess I'll be looking for that one.
     
  4. Daemose

    Daemose Maven (1,407) Oct 3, 2011 Texas

    Good to hear. I'll still be drinking only one of my two bottles when I pick them up later today. The other one I will hoard forever.
     
  5. boogercrack

    boogercrack Initiate (0) May 24, 2012 Texas

    @Daemose, i think we'll both be picking up orders at the same post office today. the bald guy is going to be on to us.
     
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  6. Daemose

    Daemose Maven (1,407) Oct 3, 2011 Texas

    Hah. Mine would've been yesterday but I didn't get off work in time.
     
  7. TxUltraRunner

    TxUltraRunner Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2012 Texas

    I'm in Greece at the moment but will def be looking for this when I get to Paris. Hopefully it will be out by then. Thank you JK for doing collabs with European breweries like Fantome. Nothing but good beer and great relationships can come from this.

    The day Cantillon and Drie can be poured freely will be heaven!
     
  8. Indytruks138

    Indytruks138 Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2013 Texas

    I was very surprised to see mine was delivered without signature yesterday. That was a first for me. Haven't drank but from seeing in the bottle this looks nice and cloudy!
     
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  9. army01

    army01 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2011 Texas

    Not to completely de-rail the thread, but why do they use green glass in Europe? I swear every time I have one (Mikkeller; To Øl), it tastes a bit...off.
     
  10. canadianghetto

    canadianghetto Initiate (0) Oct 15, 2011 Texas
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    This isnt a Jester King beer.
     
  11. Daemose

    Daemose Maven (1,407) Oct 3, 2011 Texas

    Sorry. Don't hit me.
     
  12. JaBes

    JaBes Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2013 Texas

    Am I the only one who gets annoyed when they dont talk about the type of beer or what it should taste like in these long winded descriptions? The art and name and all that are cool, but at the end of the day its whats inside that silly bottle that matters to me.
     
  13. mph005

    mph005 Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2013 Texas
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    it's a saison with truffles
     
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  14. Indytruks138

    Indytruks138 Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2013 Texas

    They almost always talk about what is in the beer and flavor profile. They very clearly stated that while they normally do, they are respecting the wishes of Fantome and not disclosing that information....
     
  15. supernatural_skeptic

    supernatural_skeptic Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2014 Texas

    Goddamn do I want to taste that collaboration... stupid insular beer licensing laws. Sometimes Texas can be a real sonofabitch.
     
  16. cfrobrew

    cfrobrew Initiate (0) Oct 9, 2012 Texas

    You dont need to worry about light damage to hops in a beer with aged hops and low IBU's so they dont have a reason to buy dark glass.
     
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  17. Heretic42

    Heretic42 Savant (1,118) Aug 31, 2011 Texas

    This pretty much only applies to lambics.

    Saison Dupont uses green 750mL bottles, but brown 330mL. Skunked Saison Dupont is not pleasant.
     
  18. ElkSherpa

    ElkSherpa Initiate (0) Dec 26, 2008 Texas


    I actually prefer beer out of green glass than brown. When purchasing from a retailer, it can be a gamble. Sometimes your beer is extra skunky. Saison Dupont with a little skunk on it is amongst my favorite beers!
     
  19. jesterkingbeer

    jesterkingbeer Pundit (865) Jun 28, 2010 Texas

    I think over the years we have established a very good reputation for openness and stating exactly what ingredients are in our beer and what techniques we used to make it. We give out all our recipes to home brewers and will gladly tell anyone exactly how we make our beer. We have been very clear and upfront about our beer in every release we have ever posted prior to this one. Like we mentioned in the post, we feel an obligation to be secretive given our collaborative partner for this beer. It's clearly not our preference to do so, but we're honored to have worked with Fantôme and are glad to make accommodations outside of our norm to have done so. Finally, if there's a topic we're pleased to be long winded about, it's the Texas beer laws that keep small, artisanal brewers out of our state. - Jeff
     
  20. Daemose

    Daemose Maven (1,407) Oct 3, 2011 Texas

    :clap:
     
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