How quickly does a beer get skunked? Would the perfect glass solve this?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Ultra-Plinian, Jul 10, 2014.

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  1. Ultra-Plinian

    Ultra-Plinian Pundit (877) Mar 1, 2013 Connecticut

    I came across a product called BRU-V Beer Glass. It is a beer glass that is Amber and will filter out any UV rays that will skunk your beer in your glass. But does beer that is poured in my glass and lasts about 45 minutes (sometime shorter / sometimes longer) really get skunked in that amount of time? Their website claims that beer goes skunked immediately upon light hitting it. I am calling B.S. There is no way that this glass will do anything.

    I'd love to hear thoughts from others, but more than that, I know that there are a lot of smart people out there and I'd love their feedback with actual facts around if the beer starts changing immediately?

    One last thing, the glass is Amber in color. WHY? A big part of my enjoyment is looking at the color of the beer.
     
  2. riverlen

    riverlen Pundit (852) Sep 16, 2009 Illinois

    Absolutely not. They're just trying to sell you something. Moreover, that glass doesn't prevent light from entering from the top, does it?
     
  3. Jared14

    Jared14 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2014 Missouri

    It's dumb. You won't notice a "skunky" change in your beer in the hour or less you'll drink it. The issue with beer getting skunked is prolonged light exposure in the bottle, noticeable in clear or green bottles. I'm sure others can get much better facts and information on the subject, but the simple answer is no the glass won't do anything.
     
  4. PSU_Mike

    PSU_Mike Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Pennsylvania

    In a clear bottle, skunking starts within 30 seconds. In a brown bottle, it starts within 2 minutes.

    Just an FYI
     
  5. Optifron

    Optifron Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2012 Minnesota

    This piqued my curiosity, so I did some quick browsing of the literature. The couple papers I found on the topic showed riboflavin (the compound understood to contribute to the degradation of isohumulones under visible light) compounds degraded by ~75% after 50 min of light intensity equivalent to a mildly sunny day. I will say I didn't investigate enough to find how quickly that relates to the formation of MBT (the compound responsible for skunk), but it lends one to think happening in minutes on a sunny day is not unreasonable.

    All that being said, I still wouldn't buy the glass. As others said, sitting outside, most of the sunlight is probably coming to the top of the glass anyways. If I'm outside, I'm probably drinking from the bottle. If I'm inside... the light intensity is much lower.
     
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  6. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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  7. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    It can happen in less than a minute under the right circumstances. The number of times I've experienced this in more than 30 years I can count on one hand (granted, I'm usually pretty careful about where I leave my glass, but still...). In other words, I don't think there's any real need for the glass although there is some truth to what they're saying.
     
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  8. GoldenWort

    GoldenWort Devotee (310) Apr 17, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I've noticed this happening quite often within a minute or two... I also think that some recipes may be more prone to this than others. The rapidly occurring lightstruck character I've experienced primarily effects the nose, even if it is only slight. I usually cut my outdoor smoke break short, go back indoors and by the second half of the beer, all is well again....Does the glass have a lid?
     
  9. Ultra-Plinian

    Ultra-Plinian Pundit (877) Mar 1, 2013 Connecticut

    Thanks everyone for their feedback, I am guess that I have never been in that situation that often to notice.

    The glass itself does not have a lid. Looks like a standard pint glass, but Amber in color. They have coasters that go along with it that are to be placed on top of the beer not for under the beer.
     
  10. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Beer is a living things poop and vomit with hops added. This gassy slurry we drink called beer is also a living thing. It well want to change anyways when all of these alchemies and science and things get released while it awaits your attempt to shoot pictures of it to act important and seem sophisticated whilst you sniff it and quaff it. Don't try and over think your beer.
     
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  11. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I mean we are talking about skunked beer right, like a bad old German brew that stinks up the room with a foul cabbage stench. Kinda makes me think that some here have never had a skunked beer, and it certainly won't skunk in the time it takes to pour and consume. Forget the silly uv glass too, sounds cool and all, but unless it's just a cool glass in and by itself I'd pass.
     
  12. GoldenWort

    GoldenWort Devotee (310) Apr 17, 2009 Pennsylvania

    [I mean we are talking about skunked beer right, like a bad old German brew that stinks up the room with a foul cabbage stench. Kinda makes me think that some here have never had a skunked beer, and it certainly won't skunk in the time it takes to pour and consume. Forget the silly uv glass too, sounds cool and all, but unless it's just a cool glass in and by itself I'd pass]

    Agreed.... "Skunked" vs "Percieving the effect slight light striking" aren't comparable... 30 years ago I had the pleasure of opening a Carlsberg Elephant that was on the back seat of a hot car on a sunny day (all day) which somebody then just threw on ice.... kinda sensitized me to the chemistry involved... nowadays that two hearted or sixty minute in a glass and one minute of sunshine on the back porch is only a gentle reminder...
     
  13. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    So that day I finally got some matilda - and took it outside for a 'latest haul' photo shoot - it was only out there for a few minutes, sunny day, brown bottles - I'm good right? I was going to hang on to most of it for a few years...
     
  14. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Pooh-Bah (2,859) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    Just use a good old fashioned top hinged German beer stein.
     
  15. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    can happen in less than 5-15 minutes.

     
  16. GoldenWort

    GoldenWort Devotee (310) Apr 17, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Keeps the thirsty bugs out , too!
     
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  17. Mebuzzard

    Mebuzzard Grand Pooh-Bah (4,290) May 19, 2005 Colorado
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    Depends on conditions, but skunking is quick to begin, like 20 secs in the sun. Granted, the sun is kind of bright.

    45 minutes will see other changes in the beer
     
  18. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    A classic example of why you should think twice before posting while drinking. :astonished:
     
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  19. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    I was at a baseball game last weekend and absolutely noticed it. This wasn't an uber hop bomb - Long Trail Pale Ale. I took a sip from each cup when I got them, to avoid spillage on the way back up to my seat; it tasted like it did every other time I've had it. Once sitting, I put one under the seat to stay out of the way and was holding the other. In just a few minutes I noticed there was a big change in the beer. Tried the one I was holding against the other? BIG difference. That said, this amber glass won't do much unless they have lids with them.
     
  20. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I've sometimes noticed skunking at the end of drinking a beer usually happens with a light American lager) but always thought that the warming up of the beer from start to finish allowed the skunking flavor and aroma that may have already been there to develop as it warmed. So, now I know.
     
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