Bottled beer at restaurants

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  1. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    And it was a Capt. Lawrence Captains Reserve 500 ml bottle. I learned my lesson previously at another place by not checking the date first.
     
  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Where is the date on that one, btw?
     
  3. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Bottled date printed on the back label.
     
  4. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I'll have to check that out. Thanks. Either it's new or I somehow missed it before.
     
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  5. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Pooh-Bah (2,019) Mar 26, 2013 California
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    he should have brought you a julian calendar and magnifying glass as well
     
  6. jaybags

    jaybags Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2012 Michigan

    how insulting. the nerve of that waiter
     
  7. 1eyed_jack

    1eyed_jack Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2012 Illinois

    It's beer!

    I love beer, don't get me wrong, I mean I'm on this site, so I obviously do, but really, who cares if they open, and maybe I'm not upscale enough for craft beer, but I sure as hell don't need a waiter presenting it to me for approval. I wouldn't feel good about it, I'd feel awkward.
     
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  8. Brolo75

    Brolo75 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,134) Aug 10, 2013 California
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    I work for a distributor and with my 10+ years experience, restaurants have the worst rotation in the business when it comes to package beer, so I always order draught when eating at a restaurant. I would be reluctant to trust that a restaurant is serving the freshest beer possible when it comes to bottled beer, but if they show you the code date, that's a way to convince me.
     
  9. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Unless I'm specifically at a craft beer bar, I usually order Belgians if I'm ordering bottles. Something that I know ages well, and I'm certainly not drinking for the hop profile.

    Love the idea with asking to see the bottle, but I think I lack both the snobbery and the courage to pull something like that off. Think I'll stick with tap swill in most cases.

    Sounds like you struck gold with that waiter, though.
     
  10. Longhorn08

    Longhorn08 Savant (1,109) Feb 4, 2014 Texas
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    Some people are over the top.
     
  11. PaulyB83

    PaulyB83 Maven (1,399) Sep 1, 2013 Michigan

    My Chili's always has Two Hearted on tap. :slight_smile:
     
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  12. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado


    Or maybe I got hoodwinked. The beer was fine though.
     
  13. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I wasn't being sarcastic. I just haven't checked out that beer in a long while because it always seems to be the same ones sitting there. Plus, it's on my mental list to revisit when I see some fresh ones, so knowing where to look will be a big help.
     
  14. JFear

    JFear Initiate (0) Jun 18, 2014 Virginia

    I feel like it's mostly a waste of money to get bottled beer at a restaurant, unless it's some rarity, or the draft list is terrible. I once had a really bad experience of drinking a Summerfest...that was from the previous summer, at a VA Beach beachfront restaurant.
     
  15. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado


    Whew. Relief. [semi-sarcastic]
     
  16. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado


    I feel awkward paying the mark-up at a restaurant for an old bottle of beer. And if we ever want to elevate the status of beer, asking to see a bottle of an IPA, which needs to be enjoyed as fresh as possible, is one way to do it. You just have to grin and bear it when others don't understand what you're doing or why you're doing it.
     
  17. david18

    david18 Initiate (0) Sep 18, 2005 New York

    Kinda like when they bring the wine bottle over and show it to you before they open it?
     
  18. AlpacaAlpaca

    AlpacaAlpaca Maven (1,384) Apr 2, 2014 New York
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    A restaurant has a responsibility to serve what they offer fresh, and its telling of the general attitude towards beer that past-their-prime bottles are routinely served. Kudos to the OP for being discerning, it's something that needs to be done if beer is ever going to get the respect it deserves.
     
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  19. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Pooh-Bah (2,445) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    I am very mindful of dates on my IPA purchases in liquor stores but not in restaurants. The problem is , what if you are not happy with the date on that bottle? How many 12 oz bottles are you going to make your server check so you can get a fresh IPA? And everyone assumes if they are drinking draft that it's fresh but who knows how long those kegs have been sitting around. If you go out you are sort of at the mercy of the establishment unfortunately.
     
  20. Phocion

    Phocion Maven (1,455) Aug 5, 2005 Minnesota

    Having worked in bars/restaurants for several years, I can say that kegs are generally stored much better. Between the brewer and your table, who knows how the distributor treated the bottle/can or how long it was sitting in a storage closet at the restaurant? Meanwhile, even crappy distributors keep their kegs refrigerated all the time. Plus, although there are exceptions, draft beer generally tends to move much more consistently, so it usually really is newer.
     
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