World Wide Stout

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  1. Admbmb92

    Admbmb92 Initiate (0) Oct 6, 2013 Oregon

    So I'm sipping on a world wide stout right now and I can not find any information on how this monster is brewed. All I ever find is "brewed with a ridiculous amount of barley". What hops, malts, etc do they use? Do they age it in barrels? How long does it take to make it? If anybody knows please enlighten me. I am doing a video beer review of it
     
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  2. 1000lbgrizzly

    1000lbgrizzly Maven (1,497) Jul 16, 2013 Illinois

    That's the most intense and convincing BS I've ever read. Well done. I do hope the brewing process is dangerous, nothing else like sipping (chugging) liquid almost-death.
     
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  3. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I'm not sure what their recipe is but there's really only one way to reach that high of an abv. Most ale yeasts can only ferment to 10-12% abv. So basically you make a 10-12% stout with whatever yeast you would like as the majority of the yeasts flavors are expressed early in the fermentation. Then once your 10-12%abv fermentation begins to slow you add a high alcohol tolerant yeast (champagne/distillers yeast). Theses strains don't have great flavor attributes so adding it late to only consume simple sugar will basically not express any of the yeasts nasty inherent flavors. You then dose the beer with some type of simple sugar (corn sugar, honey, candi sugar). The gradual addition of simple sugars are added until the desired abv level is reached.

    I'm not positive but I think WWS is done in all stainless and doesn't see any type of oak/wood.

    I have a friend that used this process to clone WWS and Mephistopheles from Avery. Very very nice beers.
     
  4. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Good description. But not sure about the use of extra sugars in the case of WWS, they imply sugars from the malt are why there's an insane amount of malt, but based on multiple tastings (including a side by sides with an oak aged beer) and at least two visits to the brewery, I'd agree, no Oak for WWS.
     
  5. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Perhaps they are using all malt sugars but I gotta believe that the beer would be sickly sweet if it was all malt. Simple sugars are 100% fermentable and malt sugars are not. But I don't put anything past DFH.
     
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  6. Donco

    Donco Pooh-Bah (1,639) Aug 12, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks for posting this. WWS is one of my absolute favorites...think I'll have one tonight as I (wisely) stocked up when it was released. :rolling_eyes:
     
  7. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    Funny thing is, I think WWS IS sickly sweet. Gets better with age though
     
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  8. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Yea I agree it's quite sweet and boozy fresh and does age wonderfully from what I hear. I have a 2009 that a friend gave me but have yet to crack. I think that if they didn't add sugar though the beer would be impossible to make. I've never had Dark Lord but I hear they use sugar additions to boost abv as well. It's pretty common practice.
     
  9. Donco

    Donco Pooh-Bah (1,639) Aug 12, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    I also have a bottle of 2009 but haven't decided when to open it...must be my taste in beers, but I like this beer fresh.
     
  10. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Another friend of mine has some other vintages as well as a case of 2014 so we will be doing a mini vertical when we decide to crack it. I wanna get my hands on some fresh raison dextra. The only bottle I ever had was an 06 a couple months ago and it was amazing.
     
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  11. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    That might be a bit difficult. Isn't Raison D'Extra not made anymore?
     
  12. Donco

    Donco Pooh-Bah (1,639) Aug 12, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    I believe Capone's in E. Norriton (just down the road from me) has several different years of WWS
     
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  13. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    . Correct but I pray that they make it again and I have a feeling that they will....
     
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  14. JamesStreet

    JamesStreet Pooh-Bah (2,049) May 9, 2013 Louisiana
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    I have a couple of this year's hanging out but have yet to try it. Any different than Mephistopheles (which I've had) or any other ridiculously large stouts?
     
  15. beerindaglass

    beerindaglass Zealot (645) Feb 20, 2013 Florida
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    I had WWS on tap with KBS. Preferred the WWS. What a great beer. So glad the shelves are filled with it right now.
     
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  16. Donco

    Donco Pooh-Bah (1,639) Aug 12, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    What's it going for down there? It's $10 per bottle around here.
     
  17. beerindaglass

    beerindaglass Zealot (645) Feb 20, 2013 Florida
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  18. Toonces

    Toonces Crusader (455) Oct 25, 2005 New Jersey

    While I don't prefer it to KBS, I agree it's an amazing beer and I very much enjoy it fresh/aged/whatever. Every time this comes out I buy a few, drink some, and age the rest and I'm always happy.
     
  19. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    I had a Mephistopheles from 2011 a few months ago. IMO, they both are pretty sweet and boozy. But the edge went to Mephistopheles, it was less boozy/burning on the finish than WWS. I can kill both beers though.
     
  20. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    Edit : I love you with my Stout is pretty great. It hides it's 12% quite devilishly.
     
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