Bad Trader/Scam: BSBSME

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by cmgray03, Jul 15, 2014.

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  1. BlumBeer

    BlumBeer Initiate (0) May 17, 2012 Florida

    You would be astounded by some of the shit people try to pull off...especially in the facebook groups..
     
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  2. mythaeus

    mythaeus Pooh-Bah (2,074) Jul 22, 2013 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Yup. FB trading is wildly unchecked and unverifiable in term of credentials and certainty. People are brazen enough to screw other people using their personal profiles that have low privacy settings and/or that are linked to their family members, not just "friends". The feedback system on BA is extremely valuable, even if sometimes some bad traders manage to sneak through. When I find leads on FB, I ask if they have a profile and trading history here or other reputable beer sites, then go from there.
     
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  3. QuadriderMX

    QuadriderMX Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2014 Michigan

    I Too also had a Brief stint with @BSBSME. He and I agreed to Trade some Plinys for a few from Dark Horse. Not having any feedback, Of course I demanded that he ship first. I sent a Trade request which he accepted. And agreed to ship first... 2 weeks later, no answer, no update, no message, no tracking, no beer. The trade offer is still stands as open, but at this point I've already received 3 Plinys from another trader.
     
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  4. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    BAs often trade without initiating a formal request. It's disturbing that this thread quickly showed at least 3 potential victims. It's hard to believe there aren't more. I just hope he didn't succeed with any of them.

    GREAT info on cancelling a fedex shipment. Thanks. That's another compelling reason that shipping 1st should mean shipping and receiving. There have been instances where people have shipped immediately after the other party shipped & then received nothing but an empty box or box of junk.
     
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  5. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
    In Memoriam Pooh-Bah Trader

    Those who doubt the lengths some people go were not here for jojomdma and mikesgroove. To this day no one has come close to topping the rip offs of these two.
     
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  6. gueuzedreg

    gueuzedreg Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2013 Colorado
    In Memoriam

    Ya, Mikesgroove has a billion aces up his sleeve on beer manipulation
     
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  7. XmnwildX12

    XmnwildX12 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,140) Nov 12, 2010 Minnesota
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Just noticed I was working a trade with him during the same time, I asked him to ship first and he said let me think about it.... lol
     
  8. fishmich

    fishmich Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2013 Michigan

    even if it costs you more money to get the beer back than it would to just let the beer go I say it is worth it just to keep a thief from winning.
     
  9. ddedhed

    ddedhed Guest (0)

    I noticed that this trade behavior and the timing of these guys joining the site is very similar to that of someone who screwed me. He was from California as well. What city did they have you ship to? I just want to see if it is the same guy and warn others.
     
  10. GreesyFizeek

    GreesyFizeek Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Mar 6, 2013 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I always hear about how badly mikesgroove f'ed people over back in the day, but I wasn't around here when it went down. What happened??
     
  11. cmgray03

    cmgray03 Initiate (0) Dec 28, 2012 Colorado

    He had me ship to Newport Beach, CA.
     
  12. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
    In Memoriam Pooh-Bah Trader

    That's a story for over a beer not to pull out of the past here. jojo's story too.

    BTW I have a Capt'n Krunkles growler someone sent me up for trade.
     
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  13. GreesyFizeek

    GreesyFizeek Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Mar 6, 2013 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I'm working on figuring out a time to come down to visit RD for the first time, and make another stop at Peekskill, getting a craving lately. I think in a few weeks I'm gonna check out Crossroads when I'm visiting my parents in Albany.

    I will for sure let you know when any of this happens.
     
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  14. Regalwvu

    Regalwvu Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Bsbsme tried to scam me too. I demanded he ship first and ge said he did. He forgot the tracking number so I didn't ship that day. Bottom line, he never shipped and promised he did. I tried to notify BA and they said trade at your own risk.
     
  15. ddedhed

    ddedhed Guest (0)

    My scammer lives about an hour away. What's up SoCal BA's?
     
  16. HopFace

    HopFace Initiate (0) Feb 29, 2012 Colorado

    wow! Glad I found this. I have a box all wrapped up and waiting for him. He supposedly sent on July 8th but forgot this tracking number. Because of the join date I was waiting till I got his box before sending mine. 2 weeks later, I haven't heard a peep from him. Seems I am not the only one. Glad I never sent. But now I have a growler of beer that normally wouldn't drink. Win some/lose some.
     
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  17. kbuzz

    kbuzz Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2011 North Carolina

    BOOOOOOOO!!!!!
     
  18. JamesShoemaker

    JamesShoemaker Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2012 Michigan

    @BSBSME is so pissed that he didn't get any free beer from his scamming...it doesn't pay to work so hard to be a tool evidently!
     
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  19. kbuzz

    kbuzz Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2011 North Carolina

    In looking at his few posts, unless he did some homework it seems like he's a somewhat experienced trader and/or member of the community considering he knows the acronyms and terms ($4$), etc...

    So considering the likelihood that this dude probably is an active member under a different name either here or on other sites, makes this extra shitty in my book. It's not like he's some serial pro scammer who just happended to stumble onto a beer site and said "hey, let me give this venue a shot"...seems to me like he's part of the community already and just decided to turn scammer.

    Just a bummer...
     
  20. Nachos4two

    Nachos4two Pooh-Bah (1,944) Nov 26, 2011 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Had me ship to Newport Beach ca 92663
     
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