"Built to Last" IPAs

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by MimDIPA, Aug 14, 2014.

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  1. MimDIPA

    MimDIPA Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 Colorado

    So recently I had a bottle of 32 oz. Lagunitas Sucks. I'm not sure how old it was (didn't see a bottled-on date), but it was straight-up awful. The hops were pretty much dead, which left only an awkward malt sweetness that clashed with whatever hop flavor remained. I DP'ed most of it.

    So that got me to thinking -- are there any IPAs or DIPAs out there are "built to last," intentionally or unintentionally? In other words, are there any IPAs that you feel can safely be purchase several months after they were bottled, such that you don't feel an overwhelming need to look for a bottled on/enjoy by date when purchasing? This may mean either that (1) the hop flavor somehow lasts longer than the average IPA or (2) even when the hops fade, you're still left with a pretty tasty brew. A focus on widely-distributed beers is probably worthwhile, since that's where this issue seems most likely to arise.

    I think I have two examples--one from each category. First, I had an almost 6-mo old Surly Abrasive that, while certainly not at the same level it would have been fresh, still had a pretty impressive hop burst. I was expecting the worst and was pleasantly surprised. Then Deschutes Fresh Squeeze -- I grabbed it knowing it probably wasn't fresh, and while the hops had certainly faded, the sweeter malt backbone that's at the heart of that beer made for a fruity, more Pale Ale-like brew.
     
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  2. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Abrasive is one of the best examples to your question others that hold up well IMO
    2Hearted
    Odell's IPA
     
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  3. MimDIPA

    MimDIPA Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 Colorado

    Oh, in case it wasn't clear, probably ought to specify that I'm thinking of American IPAs, not English-style (which I'd have to think hold up much better by comparison).
     
  4. StLeasy

    StLeasy Initiate (0) Sep 8, 2013 Illinois

    Heady Topper from what I've heard (never tried it aged)
    Hop Nosh
    Bell's Two Hearted Ale
    Modus Hoperandi
    Lagunitas Hop Stoopid
    New Belgium Rampant

    Not sure if you're a fan of hoppy reds, but I will happily drink them for a few months after bottling. I miss the aromatic dry hop, but I still really enjoy the rich caramel malts with a lot of bitterness (alpha acids/bitterness lasts much longer than beta acids/aroma)

    Anything stored in a home fridge or walk-in cooler will hold up much better than an open-front or even one with a swing/slide door, and much better than warm of course. Here's a recent write-up where many tasters could not tell a 1mo. warm Union Jack apart from a 4mo. cold.
    http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2014/06/beer-is-the-new-milk-drink-it-fast.html
     
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  5. ThisWangsChung

    ThisWangsChung Pooh-Bah (2,988) Oct 15, 2011 Maryland
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    I've noticed that Victory IPAs tend to hold up well. Hop Wallop was still really damn good after about 6 months. Also I remember a bottle of Moylan's Hopsickle that didn't seem very fresh (at all), but still kicked me around in a great way.

    Other than that, most old IPAs suck, period.
     
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  6. spicoli00

    spicoli00 Pooh-Bah (2,305) Jul 6, 2005 Indiana
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    2 bros hop centric and dark horse double crooked tree
     
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  7. WynnDavis

    WynnDavis Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2014 Minnesota

    Abrasive is one, if not my favorite double ipa, or even beer i have ever had. when it is fresh it is an experience. i can get it regularly when it comes out. the last one i had was a four pack i picked up about a month ago, so it was a few months past its prime, but it was still solid. it was better than a lot of other "pop-up" breweries doubles trying to make a quick entrance into the brewing game without quality on all fronts. i would say that more of the maltier beers would probably hold up better like dog fish head 90 minute, which has a really sweet finish, or some of the earlier classics like mahraja. then again, maybe they would turn into a malt bomb, which is no good, unless you wanted to be put to sleep.
     
  8. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Victory is also one of the larger craft breweries that can afford to invest in the best bottling equipment (very expensive) and very rigorous QA/QC. These things have a huge influence on how well your beer holds up in storage. To get the best equipment you have to be a fairly large (i.e. profitable) brewery. Not that other brewers don't try to have the best product possible, but not every bottle or can is created equally.
     
  9. tmbgnicu

    tmbgnicu Maven (1,280) Mar 15, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    90 minute does hold up quite well. I had sculpin that was 5 months old and it wasn't terrible.
     
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  10. RobertH50

    RobertH50 Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 Texas

    I notice that Dogfishhead 120 says "Ages Well" on the bottle. Wonder if that is true. Anyone have any experience with old 120?
     
  11. ShaneP

    ShaneP Zealot (504) Jan 26, 2013 Indiana
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    I would venture to guess that the American IPAs or DIPAs that hold up the best are mostly going to be at microbreweries and regional breweries that have invested in a good lab. Shelf life for packaged beers is dependent on several factors from the ingredients, to DO (dissolved oxygen), and then of course how well the beers are treated as they make their way to you (cold, warm, etc) (and kegs too, but this thread seems more about bottles & cans).

    I have had great luck with Union Jack, 2Hearted, Stone, Odell, Avery and many others. On the smaller scale it's just going to depend a lot on where the brewery is in their maturation.
     
  12. SlightlyGrey

    SlightlyGrey Maven (1,480) Apr 4, 2011 Minnesota
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    Summit Saga holds up very well, both bottles and cans.
     
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  13. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Dogfish 90 minute, Avery Maharaja, Victory Hop Devil
     
  14. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    Lol!!! Tradesd for that beer for 3 years now. Dates on the cans. IT DOES NOT HOLD UP ANY BETTER THAN ALL OTHER DIPAS.

    OP - any DIPA after the one month Mark is not the same.. Can, bottle, what have u. The answer is SN beers. Torpedo & Celebration. And neither blow minds old or fresh, but they hold up well
     
  15. jwswigs

    jwswigs Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2014 California

    Btw, Lagunitas usually has a bottling date on the neck. It can be tough see, but its there in Julian form.
     
  16. pjvie

    pjvie Initiate (0) May 30, 2014 Oregon

    120 ages well, depends on your taste preferences. It ends up tasting more like barelywine because of how the hops fade. Still, its much more enjoyable than any other IPA that I've had "aged"
     
  17. luisfrancisco

    luisfrancisco Zealot (642) Dec 1, 2009 Mexico

    I've had some old SN Torpedo. IMO it's one of the best at holding its hops.
     
  18. doner24

    doner24 Zealot (611) Apr 16, 2013 Minnesota

    Abrasive /thread
     
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  19. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    LOL you must have made a bad ^^^Tradesd 3 years ago IT IS THE BEST IMO
     
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  20. commis

    commis Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2009 Massachusetts

    Resin. I won't drink most IPA after the two month mark, but Resin is still great at 4+.
     
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