Baladin Xyauyu Gold

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  1. Giovannilucano

    Giovannilucano Pooh-Bah (1,975) Feb 24, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    This Italian Barley wine made by that ever crazy genius, Teo Musso, has impressed. Forgot for a moment that it is Italian made, and that I adore Italian craft. Simply put this is truly a gold moment in my beer journey.

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    "...We are entering now a world of magic, surprises, rhythm where the -- in of gluttony -- can be committed without remorse. Here, Teo has made the "drawing room beers" or "dreaming beers" brewed with an oxidation process called Solera, coming to an exceptional result. These beers (XYAUYU) are marked with the three most important metals of gastronomy: gold, silver and copper.

    It is advisable to sip and enjoy them on a comfortable sofa, relaxing and daydreaming. The bottle when is opened remains unaltered and can be even drunk and appreciated within a long time.

    I had this in a snifter with 3 ounces. The price was 14 per glass. It places where you do find this, it can run 49.99 to 59.99 for for a 16.9 ounce bottle. Worth every penny and more, and even my frugal wife concurred. Truly a fantastic and beautiful drink to be shared with those you loves and those to be honored!
     
  2. t8000shx

    t8000shx Zealot (588) Mar 2, 2004 New York
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    Couldn't agree more. All the beers in the Xyauyu series are spectacular, and thankfully fly under the radar. While the price is high relative to most other beers, arguably this is a situation where the brewer actually priced his beer correctly. If this was available cheaply, it would fly off the shelves. As it is, it still moves off the shelves but lingers long enough for those who are interested to purchase it.
     
  3. Giovannilucano

    Giovannilucano Pooh-Bah (1,975) Feb 24, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I will be picking up a bottle for my birthday in July!
     
  4. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    The beers are excellent, no doubt. However, I think the beer has a couple of problems going for it. While it's obvious that craft beer is experiencing a rennaissance in Italy at the present time, I think the country still suffers from a perception problem, left over from the days when macros like Peroni and Morretti seemed to dominate the Italian beer scene. So that's problem number one... I think a lot of people have a very difficult time believing anything coming out of Italy could be worth that price tag.

    Problem number two is the price one has to pay for the beer in this country. At $50 or $60 for 16.9 ounce bottle, it's one of the most expensive barleywines on the market. I'm not saying the beer isn't worth the price, but when one compares the price tag to what one has to pay for some of the better BW's made in this country, I think a lot of folks are going to think twice... especially as this is a beer that is virtually unknown to a lot of consumers.

    One of the local beer bars here in Baltimore has an annual Italian craft beer festival (Max's), and last year they poured snifter size glasses of the gold, silver, copper and Xfume for the event. The price was reasonable, considering the actual bottle cost (I think it was around $8 or $9 for a 4 or 5 ounce glass), and the manager mentioned that he had tried to price the beers as close to his cost. Despite all that, almost no one was ordering the beer (I got all four).

    It's unfortunate, as I think the Xyauyu beers are clearly world class barleywines, but given the limited availability and high cost, I think it will be some time before the beer receives the accolades it deserves.
     
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  5. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    I came across Bronze for $45....I just couldn't do it. I'm sure the series is great though.
     
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  6. nogidrew86

    nogidrew86 Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2010 Nevada

    These beers are very good! I kick used for not buying more when I had the chance!
     
  7. Soonami

    Soonami Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    I think the problem is price at a local bottle shop, they range from $45 to $65. By all accounts they are delicious, but Abacus is still on the shelf at many places for $15-18, FW Anniversary for $20-25, King Henry was sold for about $15...It seems like the beer is priced too high for most people to want to buy the beer and finally appreciate it.
     
  8. mtlasley

    mtlasley Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2012 Illinois

    Exactly. Why would I drop 3X as much on something like that? There's Sucaba on shelves for $15 right across the river!
     
  9. Knifestyles

    Knifestyles Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2005 New York

    Not sure if people typically realize this, but the Xyauyu beers can be re-corked and enjoyed over a long period of time...much like Utopias.

    I've had a bottle of the Gold last well over 2 months and every small pour tasted top-notch (and it likely could have hung around even longer). This helps me to rationalize the purchase of such a costly beer. Treat it like a sherry and it starts to make sense, actually.
     
  10. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    "seems like the beer is priced too high for most people to want to buy the beer and finally appreciate it"

    This seems to be a chronic problem when it comes to Italian craft beer. State Line has an ever expanding selection of Italian craft, but I'm hesitant to buy a beer I know nothing about, when the price is so high. Max's here in Baltimore is very supportive of the Italian craft beer scene, and thankfully I can order sample size pours of a lot of these beers. Full size pours (which in this case means a 10 or 12 ounce tulip or chalice) typically sell for $7 or $8, and that's for some of the saisons, stouts and IPA's. Also, while a lot of Italian craft beer is pretty good, there are plenty of duds out there as well. Unfortunately, for every interesting and enjoyable Re Ale Extra from Del Borgo or Cassassona from B. Italiano, there seems to be an over priced dud like the Sagre De Toro from Beba.

    I don't know if the high price is simply a reflection of the cost of getting the beer over to the US, but frankly, I'd be curious to know what these beers sell for back in Italy. Generally speaking, the beers do not seem to be a very good value over here.
     
  11. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    It can at 13.5%abv? Utopias has twice the abv, and the reason I tought you could keep opening it to drink over time...
     
  12. Knifestyles

    Knifestyles Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2005 New York

    In this case, it has nothing to do with the ABV, but rather the fact that it's already a still beer. Intentionally. Remember, the varying colors (copper, silver, gold) represent specific levels of oxidation (the beer is purposefully oxidized during the fermentation process).

    This is how bars can sell individual servings. They're not doing 3 or 4 oz pours and then dumping the rest....they're re-corking it until the next time someone orders it.
     
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  13. Mavajo

    Mavajo Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2007 Georgia

    Sorry, I don't give it a shit if they've aged unicorn tears in PVW 73 year barrels made with wood from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Bad and brewed by Hammurabi himself while chiseling his code into limestone -- I'm not paying $50 retail for 17oz of beer.
     
  14. Soonami

    Soonami Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Well that's another problem. I've tried some of the Loverbeer, Borgo, and Baladin and haven't really been blown away. I feel like the sour styles definitely have obvious faults (plasticy, highly phenolic, etc) but nothing I've had has made me feel like it was money well spent especially when they cost more than known quality imported beers like Cantillon, Chimay, 3F, Fantome, etc
    Well the it does have something to do with the 13.5% abv--the high alcohol percentage is better at keeping the beer from spoiling due to microbe infection. Now most things can't live bathed in 1.35% ABV, but much fewer can live in 13.5
     
  15. Vav

    Vav Savant (1,049) Jul 27, 2008 Illinois

    God i love Xyauyu.
     
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  16. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Grand Pooh-Bah (4,516) Oct 13, 2007 Wisconsin
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    I still have the one bottle that I bought last year and still haven't opened it.
     
  17. xpimptastikx

    xpimptastikx Initiate (0) Oct 8, 2008 Texas

    I've wanted to try any of the 3 beers in that series since I joined BA, but I could never justify 45$ + shipping/trading fees. I had 3 bottles of Sedicigradi sent to me for pretty much the same price point.
     
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  18. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    split a bottle of the bronze recently (was a birthday present to myself). wouldn't buy again, but i loved it. so much flavor, but so easy drinking.
     
  19. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    This. And people are also looking over the fact that this beer takes 2 years to make. Nothing about it is going to be cheap. King Henry and Abacus are nowhere near as laborous to make. And Abacus is also nowhere near as good. I think it's similarly enjoyable as Kng Henry and you don't have to trade anything crazy for one.
     
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  20. Giovannilucano

    Giovannilucano Pooh-Bah (1,975) Feb 24, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Reading through the comments I can see where everyone one comes from. I believe if you can not or will not spend that much for the bottle, then you support you the beer you love. I really enjoyed Sucaba and would be it all the time.

    But if you will as Hidden mentioned, Xyauyu goes beyond the standard barley wine style and it really enters a whole new world. So much like I said I had to mention why I loved this.

    Listen, we Italians know we are not masters of beer, maybe of any style, but we try our hardest with passion and dedication to learning and understanding traditions. If I can share and teach you guys anything it is that said point. Maybe when you learn our mentality and approach you can love it or leave it as it were.

    I will pull the trigger every time with this beer in honor of my grandfather, every year!
     
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