Taps: How many is too many?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by eagles7251, Aug 22, 2014.

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  1. eagles7251

    eagles7251 Zealot (658) Sep 29, 2009 New Jersey

    I brought this up because I noticed a place down here in SNJ ( Haddonfield) advertise that they have 72 beers on tap. They possibly cant keep all that beer fresh? I guess it depends on how much business they do but c'mon, something has to be sitting for a while? I guess I am just curious as to what are people's thoughts on the sweet spot for number of taps?
     
  2. stakem

    stakem Grand Pooh-Bah (4,070) Feb 20, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Its completely dependent on how much business they have. One bar with 100+ taps might/could have regular turn-around and offer fresher stuff than a place with less than 20 taps that doesnt do much business.

    Some places seemingly jump all over the numbers game and advertise having so many and yet when you visit, only 60% of the taps are actually flowing. The places that do good business usually are aware of what has been hanging around and they do discounts on growler fills and such to help it move.
     
  3. Kanger

    Kanger Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2013 New York

    My avatar is a picture of the wall of taps at Popeye Beer Club in Tokyo. They have nearly 100 taps. Even the bartender said it was overkill. But it's nice to have that selection. As far as freshness - I would imagine the majority of the taps are sixtels.


    I think 15 - 40 is good for any craft bar.
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    "Some places seemingly jump all over the numbers game and advertise having so many and yet when you visit, only 60% of the taps are actually flowing."

    FWIW, I would prefer for a bar to have 60% of the taps flowing if all of those beers are fresh (i.e., not 'off') vs. having 100% flowing but with x% of those taps serving beer that has gone 'off'.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. taestee

    taestee Initiate (0) Dec 12, 2012 New York

    One of my favorite places, and the place that really turned me onto craft beer, is Taco Mac. Unfortunately they don't make it this far north. My motto is... the more the better.
     
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  6. stakem

    stakem Grand Pooh-Bah (4,070) Feb 20, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I agree with you but to consistently advertise having so many lines when only a fraction of them are pouring at any given time is quite a gimmick. If I have to choose between 2 places; id rather know upfront that say place A has 26 taps that are constantly flowing. Instead of selecting place B based off advertising 40 taps but go there only to find 26 of them are actually being utilized.

    Its a trivial thing I suppose.
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    In your scenario Bar A has 26 fresh beers on tap and Bar B has 26 fresh beers on tap. Sounds like a win-win to me.

    Cheers!
     
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  8. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    the # of taps to me is less important than the variety of styles on tap.

    I'd rather go to a bar that has 20 taps that are a wide variety of styles, rather than one with 30 taps but 20 of them are an IPA.
     
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  9. mgross50

    mgross50 Devotee (367) Apr 15, 2004 New York

    Not a question of freshness but, it depends on what is in the taps in the first place.
    A local place advertises 120 beers on tap and a good portion of them are....
    Bud, Bud Light, Bud Ice, Bud Lime, Miller, Miller Light ... I think they even have "Bud Light Ice Draft Dry"
     
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  10. Buschyfor3

    Buschyfor3 Savant (1,083) Jan 4, 2009 Kentucky

    I would say somewhere between 20-30 is ideal. My favorite local beer bar (Holy Grale, Louisville, KY) usually splits the middle and has around 25 or so offerings on tap any given night, depending on whether or not a keg kicks early in the night. Not only is the beer always fresh, but having that range of taps allows for a nice variety - choice is the spice of life, after all. When you go, you can always find something new, something unique, and often something rare on the draft menu, and it hits across all styles of beers - from big, barrel-aged stouts to some of the craziest Belgian sours and everything in between. IMO, 25 or so taps is enough to cover a wide enough swath that there will be at least 2 or 3 beers that will appeal to most customers, and if they are looking for something a bit different, then that's where you clean up with your bottle list.
     
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  11. briang01

    briang01 Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2009 Maryland

    If you have a well curated tap list, 10-15 is more than enough for me. When you advertise that you have 50 and 45 of them are garbage, you are just playing a numbers game.
     
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  12. CTbrew32

    CTbrew32 Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2013 Rhode Island

    As long as the selection is good and beer is fresh I don't care if they have 10 taps or 100.
     
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  13. Starkbier

    Starkbier Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2002 Maryland

    Dont forget many taps these days are sixtels, so thats only 2 cases of beer per tap. You can also do what Flying Saucer does, if a beer is on for more than say 21 days, it goes on special blowout pricing to move it out.

    Personally, I find 4 at home is enough for me and about 20 at a good bar works for most.
     
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  14. ClavisAurea

    ClavisAurea Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2008 New York

    If the beer is of ample body and ABV freshness shouldn't be a concern for a while. O2 exposure is always going to be a concern if the tap is turned on and off constantly. 70+ is a bit excessive for a smaller place but for a well advertised establishment that gets a lot of turnover in their supply and customers 70+ could be a major selling point.
     
  15. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I think 30- 40 is ideal. It's enough to give a wide variety of styles at once, while still allowing the bar to have some depth in certain styles.
     
  16. Andrew041180

    Andrew041180 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    I routinely go to the place with 12 taps rather than the place with 100. Assuming decent stewardship and selection, I don't think you're gaining much by going over 30.
     
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  17. Curb71

    Curb71 Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2012 California

    It's all about quality over quanity for me
     
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  18. John_Beeryman

    John_Beeryman Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2014 Virginia

    When you run out of wall space, stop.
     
  19. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    It really depends on who's making the decisions about which beers to pour. 15-20 can work very well if well chosen and staff is up to speed on what's pouring. Sheer numbers means nothing.
     
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  20. TheNightwatchman

    TheNightwatchman Initiate (0) Mar 28, 2009 Pennsylvania

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