Ever have a great Dark saison?

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  1. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    Last night I had my 3rd commercially brewed dark Saison. Needless to say I was not impressed. Of course all of mine so far have been local. I am not a fan of dark Saison, and I think its so far away from the "style" of a farm house ale, that it's something new. Does any know of a really good one? So I could maybe have a base line to judge from.

    I know it could be a home brew topic but I figure I ask here first.

    Thanks!
     
    #1 azorie, Aug 23, 2014
  2. Tweekers237

    Tweekers237 Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Love Saison. Never had a dark though, I'd imagine it tastes nothing like a Saison.
     
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  3. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    HF Edith was good. And I always get mixed up with the Civil Disobedience series, but I feel like one or two of them have been dark
     
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  4. ironchefkook

    ironchefkook Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 California

    A Saison Darkly

    As suspected by the previous poster, it does not taste much like a true-to-style saison. But with that said.. it is one fine tasting beer.
     
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  5. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Yeah, Saison Darkly isn't bad but nothing awesome IMO. The only one I've had and truly enjoyed was GI Pepe Nero (RIP). The Stone collab, The Perfect Crime, was good on-tap but not so good in the bottle. Other than those three, all the other black/dark saisons I've had have had muddled, incohesive flavors. I agree with you azorie that they don't even really taste like saisons but rather a yeasty stout or porter. I guess the verdict's still out since I have had ones that were tasty but, overall, it's definitely not a revolutionary invention.
     
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  6. Vogt52

    Vogt52 Initiate (0) May 25, 2014 Maryland

    "Great Dark Saison" sounds like the name of a great wizard.....I apologize for my ADD
     
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  7. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Forest & Main's Manu Negra is a sour saison that's pretty dark, and is damn tasty.
     
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  8. PenningtonNY10

    PenningtonNY10 Zealot (687) Nov 20, 2009 Connecticut

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  9. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    wow can I steal you words for my review? muddled yep that is it alright. It's like a porter or a brown beer and something else, and the examples I had are nothing like any Saison flavors I expect. thanks!
     
    #9 azorie, Aug 23, 2014
  10. ChanChan

    ChanChan Maven (1,341) Dec 12, 2009 California

    I love dark saisons, they taste very similar to regular saisons and have similar crisp, palate cleansing properties, the only difference is that many of the dark saisons finish off like a stout, some have an extreme bitter finish such as that of St. Feuillien by Greenflash. The best one I've had was Prairie's Funky Galaxy, that one was smooth!!
     
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  11. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    Hof Ten Dark
     
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  12. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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  13. t420o

    t420o Maven (1,272) Jul 16, 2009 California

    I really enjoyed Dieu du Ciel's Isseki Nichō dark saison.
     
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  14. KVNBGRY

    KVNBGRY Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2012 Florida

    dark saisons could be considered a "warm weather porter". Of all the ones I've tried, they are typically a lighter bodied, less roasty, and more effervescent porter.
     
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  15. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    I do not mind them being dark per say, I just want one to taste like a like 1. lol
     
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  16. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    And here I thought porters were "warm weather porters"... I guess I'm doing it wrong :wink:
     
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  17. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    Not any that make think conventional Saisons are doing it all wrong...
     
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  18. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    boulevard brought a really nice one to one of the beeradvocate fests a couple years back. was a standout for me.

    fairly sure i've had one from hill farmstead that was amazing, not unlike every hill farmstead saison.

    beyond that nothing comes to mind.
     
    #18 Pahn, Aug 23, 2014
  19. CavemanRamblin

    CavemanRamblin Initiate (0) Jun 19, 2014 North Carolina

    Funky Galaxy and Jolly Pumpkin's Bam Noire are the best of the few I've had. Not sure I'd call either of them "great" but they were both pretty damn good.
     
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  20. hopsputin

    hopsputin Grand Pooh-Bah (4,403) Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey
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    never had it on tap, but definitely agree on The Perfect Crime not being good out of the bottle. Kind of turned me off to the whole dark saision thing
     
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