Does SN Pale Ale usually look like this?

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  1. nauc

    nauc Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2013 New York

    i dont drink it that often, but this looks very chunky lol. its the second half a 24oz bottle. the glass was straight out of the dish washer, it should be clean but, i didnt do any Dexter investigating tricks on it

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  2. BeerMe330

    BeerMe330 Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2013 Ohio

    looks like some yeast settlement. It's fine.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    SNPA is bottle conditioned so you can expect some sediment with that beer. If it bothers you, you can decant next time and leave the sediment on the bottom of the bottle.

    Cheers!
     
  4. briang01

    briang01 Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2009 Maryland


    How did I not know it was bottle conditioned? Seems like a pretty big fact for me not to notice.
     
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  5. nauc

    nauc Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2013 New York

    it doesnt bother me if its supposed to be there. i just wasnt sure. thanks
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Below is the description on the Sierra Nevada website. I really don’t know if there is mention of bottle conditioning on the SNPA label.

    “Pale Ale

    The beginning. A classic. Our most popular beer.

    Pale Ale began as a home brewer’s dream, grew into an icon, and inspired countless brewers to follow a passion of their own. Its unique piney and grapefruit aromas from the use of whole-cone American hops have fascinated beer drinkers for decades and made this beer a classic, yet it remains new, complex and surprising to thousands of beer drinkers every day. It is—as it always has been—all natural, bottle conditioned and refreshingly bold.”

    Cheers!
     
  7. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    How many craft beers are not bottle conditioned? Seems to me that most are, yet I rarely notice any visible yeast.
     
  8. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Another interesting fact about SN Pale Ale is they blend 12 different batches into one for bottling, so the PA you're drinking is actually blended. Helps to ensure every bottle tastes the same. Found that to be interesting :grinning:
     
  9. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I usually find that sediment in Celebration because it's the only hoppy beer I drink from SN when it's "old".
     
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  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    With the latest label design changes, it's on the rear label.
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    But on the cans, it's more visible.

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  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    With well over 1,000 packaging breweries in the US, it's hard to make a blanket statement but bottle-conditioning on a consistent basis is pretty difficult on a large commercial scale (SN are among the few experts at it).

    I'd think most "craft" bottling breweries are force-carbonating, and with the smallest percentage kraeusening/bunging/bulk conditioning.
     
  12. nauc

    nauc Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2013 New York

    um, dumb question, what is bottle conditioning?
     
  13. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    My understanding was that bottle conditioning is the best option - for many reasons - for small breweries (most craft breweries by far) so maybe not within the realm of your biggest players, but you know, the little guys... ?
     
  14. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Yeast are put into the bottle just before sealing it - natural carbonation...
     
  15. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Add a little more "fuel" (sugar of some sort) to the beer when bottling. What yeast is left in the beer will devour the fuel and create carbonation and a smooth body.
     
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  16. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Not yeast, more food for the residual yeast already in the beer.

    Now this article says we're both correct, but I've added the barest grain of yeast to a bottled home-brew that I thought was "stuck" in its carbonation and ended up with a huge gusher -- I waited out the carbonation process (bottle-conditioning with light dry malt at the time of initial bottling) and all was well.
     
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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Bottle Conditioning adds production time. The majority of commercial beer (including from small craft breweries) is not bottle conditioned.

    This topic was discussed before: http://www.beeradvocate.com/communi...bottle-condition-their-12oz-offerings.113585/

    Cheers!
     
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  18. TommyTheHat

    TommyTheHat Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2014 Pennsylvania

    Not a dumb question :slight_smile:

    Well, my thoughts of bottle conditioning come from a different perspective. When I homebrewed my own beer, the process included adding yeast to the beer before fermentation. When the beer was fermented and then bottled yeast would also enter the bottles through your siphoning of the beer from the fermenter to the bottles. After that the bottles get set somewhere to continue to age (condition) in the bottle for a short while before being drinkable and the yeast and sediment would settle to the bottom of the bottle. When pouring these you have to be careful not to stir up the sediment and get it into your glass.

    It was my understanding that modern brewing methods...ie. breweries, have a process for removing sediment and conditioning the beer before bottling thus sediment free beer. Some brewers and/or some beers, are purposely bottle conditioned just to add a little something different. To me it is just like Homebrewing. Or at least that's how I always viewed it. Just a bit more yeasty. When I had bottle condiotioned beer I would let them settle before pouring and be careful not to stir the sediment. Maybe things have changed. And then again maybe I'm completely off base. :slight_smile:
     
  19. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    thanks - quick question/clarification request - the difference between bottle-conditioning in general, and krausening, is that krausening involves wort that's already being fermented, whereas bottle-conditioning that is not krausening is basically just the addition of malt?
     
  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Bottle Conditioning involves adding a fermentable (I use sugar for my homebrewed beer) to the beer and letting the yeast conduct a secondary fermentation within the bottle. The principle result is a carbonated beer but there are other benefits as well:

    · The yeast during the secondary fermentation consumes oxygen that is present within the bottle at packaging

    · Some conditioning aspects of the beer occurs as well as part of the secondary fermentation process

    Cheers!
     
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