"Off" flavors you enjoy?

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  1. Roxie_B

    Roxie_B Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2014 Alabama

    So I had an experience with a local Oktoberfest that had a distinct acetaldehyde (green apple peel) characteristic and fruit esters which would make it out of style (I dutifully noted and deducted in my review).
    The problem? I liked it.
    In fact I like the taste of diacetyl in some circumstances too.
    Is there an easy way to find what, if any beers it is acceptable to find these flavors in? Or are they too unstable to replicate and maintain consistent results with?
    So advocates are there any off flavors you like sometimes when you find them?
     
    #1 Roxie_B, Sep 6, 2014
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  2. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    I don't mind some of the more harsh Brett phenolics . . .
     
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  3. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I like diacetyl, too- as long as it stays below a certain threshold- especially in porters and stouts.
     
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  4. cYmYr

    cYmYr Savant (1,035) May 21, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I like that 'buttery' off taste in a few beers too, and I also like that petrol smell/flavour you get from aged German Rieslings and certain hops from time to time.
     
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  5. Roxie_B

    Roxie_B Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2014 Alabama

    Well I don't think I am going to find anyone who likes skunky or bandaid beer flavors but I am glad I am not the only one who likes diacetyl (within reason!) in porters and stouts. I think it goes great with anything nutty.
    And I really did like acetaldehyde and I can see the appeal of brett (I think I am the only one who is on the fence about this flavor, I've only found it once)
    My reaction to my first brett encounter was "Woah that's...different. Hello brett!"
    My husband said it was the grossest thing ever. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  6. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    While I don't necessarily think it's an "off" flavor (though others probably would), I very much enjoy the strong whiff of SO2 in a young lager.
     
    #6 herrburgess, Sep 6, 2014
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  7. Stagga_Lee

    Stagga_Lee Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2014 Massachusetts

    Not a true off flavor, but I love the onion flavor in certain hops.
     
    #7 Stagga_Lee, Sep 6, 2014
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  8. Roxie_B

    Roxie_B Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2014 Alabama

    Okay I have to ask, where did you find an oniony beer? I gotta try this.
     
    #8 Roxie_B, Sep 6, 2014
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  9. Stagga_Lee

    Stagga_Lee Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2014 Massachusetts

    Devil Dancer comes immediately to mind, smuttynose IPA used to have it occasionally but now with the new plant.
     
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  10. bluejacket74

    bluejacket74 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,305) Jul 4, 2005 Ohio
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    I don't mind band-aid flavors in beer. It's not like I find that very often, but it doesn't bother me at all.
     
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  11. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    People complain about metalic tastes in lagers, but I happen to love them. Obviously I'm not looking to drink a liquified soup spoon, but that metalic edge is something I enjoy. Though, as I write this, I'm not sure that's an "off" flavor at all, I think it should be there.

    Salute!
     
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  12. Roxie_B

    Roxie_B Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2014 Alabama

    http://www.howtobrew.com/section4/chapter21-2.html
    A good place to start. I wish I could remember which of the nice people around here showed me this but I've forgotten.
     
    #12 Roxie_B, Sep 6, 2014
  13. Stagga_Lee

    Stagga_Lee Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2014 Massachusetts

    Some batches of Enjoy By exhibit this flavor as well.
     
    #13 Stagga_Lee, Sep 7, 2014
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  14. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    absolutely. can't think of any specifics offhand. style-wise, i want all mouthfeel either 1) bone dry, or 2) silky and creamy. this would be off for many styles, but i'll take it anywhere i can get it. high ibu usually that way too; i have a pretty bitter palate.

    diacetyl and such i'm usually not into. a beer not fermenting as cleanly as intended can definitely be good though.
     
    #14 Pahn, Sep 7, 2014
  15. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    summit hops. try green flash imperial IPA. so dank, so good.
     
    #15 Pahn, Sep 7, 2014
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  16. JuicesFlowing

    JuicesFlowing Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2009 Kansas

    Abita Christmas Ale. Nothing says Christmas like onions!
     
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  17. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    Do you get Enjoy By or The Truth in your region?
     
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  18. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    I might've given you some hell last Sunday, but you have to check out Cuvée Van De Keizer Blauw. It has the green apple off flavor acetaldehyde. It also works with the"toffee" and caramel notes. Very good stuff.
     
    #18 Shroud0fdoom, Sep 7, 2014
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  19. RochefortChris

    RochefortChris Grand Pooh-Bah (3,271) Oct 2, 2012 North Carolina
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    When appropriate I don't mind oxidation like in aged barleywines and stouts
     
    #19 RochefortChris, Sep 7, 2014
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  20. RochefortChris

    RochefortChris Grand Pooh-Bah (3,271) Oct 2, 2012 North Carolina
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    Columbus hops too. Lagunitas IPA is one that comes to mind that uses these.
     
    #20 RochefortChris, Sep 7, 2014
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