Why I will never try Bourbon County Stout...

AB/InBev had the financial ability to purchase as many bourbon barrels as they desire.

 

come on. BCBS is so widely produced that it sits on the shelf in NYC and you know it. AB is not intentionally limiting BCBS; OP is a moron. his moral stance is commendable i agree (though misguided; even if AB is evil, he wouldn't know as he's obviously read nothing about it), but his posts have been one dumb thing *literally made up* after the other.

edit: ok, i see you're being kind of "detail-oriented" here. definitely, AB could buy more bourbon barrels. they couldn't feasibly increase BCBS production thaaaaat much more though. if not due to literal impossibility, then due to it being kind of silly businesswise (beer that expensive only sells so fast). edit2: if i'm not being clear, i mean yeah, you're right, but the original point by the OP was silly so it doesn't amount to much; BCBS isn't even really "limited" at this point, whatever that means.

 

I love all the hate that GI gets since the complete sale. Seriously, how many on the beer sites would turn down that amount of $$$ and still (at least so far--3 years later) no real changes except for making more beer, having more employees making said beer, etc. I'd guess that nearly everyone would take the dollaros and laugh all the way to the bank.

 

Do you have any idea how barrel aged beer works and how massive of a warehouse you would need to make enough to have it in "ever grocery store chain in your neighborhood"? Your posts are full of random assumptions. Don't try the beer if you don't want to but your reasons behind not wanting to are silly to me.

 

Well, "two" anyway - out of over 3,000 craft breweries- Goose Island and Blue Point (neither of which fit the industry's definition of microbrewery of "under 15,000 bbl./yr"). They also have minority shares of Coastal and CBA.

 

Thank you. There's also a bit of a bourbon shortage going on currently, so I don't know where people think these mythical barrels to fill every grocery store will come from....

In any event, it's nothing but bumper sticker politics...throw out terms like "integrity" and "quality ingredients" without any basis in fact, and hope they sound good enough to get people to support your views.

 

I was responding to one specific point. And I believe I am correct. AB/InBev could corner the market on barrels if that is what they wanted to do.

I agree that it is more widely distributed and they will be producing more and more. The amount that they produce is based simply upon the math.

I'm not nominating OP to be the flag bearer for the cause. I agree with his sentiment but I am not sure that he knows why he feels this way.

 

You're probably right, hell, I've never even tried a barrel aged stout, let alone one of the best. $5.50 wouldn't make me miss a rent payment or anything.

But again, I'm just not interested in jumping through even a single hoop to acquire it - no trading, no whale hunting, it's just not how I roll. The only way it'd happen is if I randomly stumble across it at a local grocery store or bottle shop, or someone just gifts me one - either scenarios very unlikely to happen around here, and I'm totally ok with that. More for everyone else, I suppose.

Also, at the end of the day, I just don't feel right giving ABInbev the cash, let alone that kind of dough.

 

were many goose island employees laid off after they were acquired by AB?

do AB-affiliates employ anyone distributing craft beer (that you likely drink)?

there are reasons to dislike AB... but you've yet to learn any of them. sometimes it's best to read and think *first*, *then* form your opinions.

 

So due to your anti- MNC stance you will not buy a world class beer.
So are you going drop Boulevard and Ommegang too?

 

hah, take a wild guess.

 

the problem isn't barrels, it's space. and demand. obviously.

the passion is great, but a lot of what you're saying is outright stupid. it doesn't make you stupid, but it definitely makes you appear stupid. this is what happens when you make things up and get mad about them in public.

edit: i mean, it's one thing to just be against MNC in principle, full stop. like, no explanation at all. it's weird, and misguided (you should have SOME explanation, *especially considering how many good ones are on offer*), but it's at least not contradictory. saying you dislike AB because you like american jobs... maybe that flew back when AB was bribing bars to get rid of local brewery taps, but i don't see much evidence today. GI acquisition sure isn't an example of it...

edit2: spoiler alert from previous post: i don't own any GI stock. i do have a large stash of bourbon county barleywine though, which i spike with homemade vanilla extract (vanilla bean in brown rum). it's unbelievable. also, 2013 BCBS was the best vintage yet, believe it or not. at least since 2008, the earliest i've had.

 

I don't recall calling anyone a moron, but perhaps I missed that somewhere. I have yet to see a basis for the assertion that inferior ingredients have been used, or that there is a lack of integrity in the brewing. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

As to the barrel statements, it's obvious you haven't much looked into the issue of what is going on in the bourbon market, so I'll just leave it at that.

 

How does Duvel equal AB/InBev?

 

I smell a white whale

 

(pasted from earlier post since this is basically a new post, and i type too much)

edit3: since i'm going to bed, if you're curious, i was very skeptical of the GI acquisition (posted many good reasons to think AB would run them into the ground). you can even search for it (: what can i say though, they seem to have been hands off, increased production of the stuff beer geeks want, while also increasing production of the swill that's easier to mass market (312, gag). and frankly, that hall guy who pissed in a glass and then passed out in his car didn't seem too awesome before the GI buyout, so i'm not sure if i can follow the morality too clearly...

that said, i bet they'll still run them into the ground at some corporate whim eventually. for now though, BCBS is still the best BBA stout in the world, at least if you use any objective measure at all. obviously john nano's coconut stout that you had at a brewpub might be more to your tastes, but i don't see how anyone can argue down the bold, balanced complexity bomb that was better *in the 90s* than stuff coming out today. this is BCBS, like legendary-status beer. like orval, pliny the elder, blabaer. we're not talking about budweiser american ale here, or even some flash in the pan high gravity bomb from evil twin or something.