Mathematically best beer value?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by 01Ryan10, Sep 8, 2014.

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  1. Andrew041180

    Andrew041180 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    I would make the following change to your formula. price / (oz * abv) divided by (BA Score/100)

    So I think I paid $86 for a case of Heady Topper last time I was in Vermont. That would be:

    $86/(384*8.0)= .028

    I would then divide that by the BA score of 100/100 and it would equal .028.

    Now suppose I take your Stone IPA measurement of .014 and divide it by 94/100, I would get basically .015 or not much difference. This is how it should be on a highly rated beer. Apply this to your lower-rated beers and it will close the AU gap a little bit more quickly.

    Personally, the only calculations that I make regarding alcohol involve how many beers I would be able to drink and still be able to take care of my kid/work in the morning.
     
  2. 01Ryan10

    01Ryan10 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2011 California

    When at Costco...usually. Is that wrong? Is it also wrong to have a case of good craft beer refrigerated at the house, so that when a friend or family comes over, I can hand them a good craft beer for not so much money? I mean, I'd rather be able to offer a Hop Stoopid or Stone IPA to visitors than something from the "cellar" that I would rather share on a special occasion.

    Is it wrong that I'd buy a $3.74 bottle of Hop Stoopid over just about any other bomber? I mean, I could drive down the street to Total Wine and have vastly more options, but nah, I'd rather have that Hop Stoopid.

    I'm not interested in trying everything possible anymore. I've had my share of different beers, and don't feel a huge need to go hunting or searching like I used to.

    So...to keep my garage fridge stocked with "everyday" beer, yeah...I factor in value.
     
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  3. kot1967

    kot1967 Devotee (341) Sep 12, 2012 Russian Federation

    Vodka the 1st :slight_smile: anyway
     
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  4. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Pooh-Bah (2,275) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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    I don't generally drink to get drunk, so this formula is broken for me. If I am drinking to get drunk, I'll buy a sixer of something New Glarus, Sierra Nevada, Bells, Great Lakes, or North Coast, since all are roughly $7-9 a pack.
     
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  5. BiffBiffster

    BiffBiffster Devotee (337) Sep 8, 2014 Virginia

    Having enjoyable low-priced craft beer on hand certainly makes sense and I don't think anyone here would question that.

    What leaves me scratching my head is that you add ABV to your equation. Why do you insist that higher ABV constitutes a higher value?
     
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  6. Bigirishdrinker

    Bigirishdrinker Devotee (377) Dec 9, 2013 Pennsylvania

    When it comes to cost vs. quality my trophy would go to both Stone & Founders
     
  7. green_plastic

    green_plastic Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2014 Wisconsin

    No doubt. But it does bring up some interesting points. If you're just having one of those days where you don't care so much about your beer, then this formula works. If you want to decide more on taste and other factors that can't be quantified, then this is awful.
     
  8. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    That soft spot is called an ulcer.
     
  9. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    It seems to me that common sense is lacking in the whole thread. You're basing your purchasing at Costco entirely on ABV and yet rejecting suggestions that there are cheaper options (Bud, vodka etc) when ABV is the primary factor. Either you're shopping for cost only, or you're adding other factors but not including them in the equation.
     
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  10. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    God I hate PA... SN, Bell's, GL, NC are all in the $10-14 range for a sixpack
     
  11. 01Ryan10

    01Ryan10 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2011 California

    Hey, this guy could be on to something. First criteria, must be "craft beer." now was that so hard?
     
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  12. BiffBiffster

    BiffBiffster Devotee (337) Sep 8, 2014 Virginia

    As you started this thread and in doing so claimed that you'd come up with a great mathematical formula to establish the "best beer value," you firmly anchored your formula as:

    The best value beer is a craft beer with the highest alcohol content and the least price.

    That's your claim in its simplest & clearest form.

    Nearly everyone in this thread has taken exception with your idea that the sole criteria for value in a craft beer is its alcohol content per ounce adjusted by price.

    I've come to the conclusion that you can't (or won't) defend your original claim. So it's safe to conclude that this formula is useless.
     
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  13. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    1/2 BBL of yeti for 45$
     
  14. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Sorry - I can't do this calculation. Even if I take my shoes and socks off, I don't have enough digits.
     
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  15. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    So if you find a case of Stone at 1.4 cents per ABV and SNPA at 1.5 cents but the SNPA is fresher, you still buy the Stone?

    Also seems to me by limiting your algorithm to craft beer, the unspoken criteria is also taste or you would simply include all beer.
     
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  16. rather

    rather Initiate (0) May 31, 2013 California

    I always calculate Ozs per dollar. 6 pack of torpedo is 8$, 72/8=9oz per 1$. but a 4 pack of pint cans is 7$ so it's slightly better value at 9.14oz per 1$.

    abv does come in the play but not mathematically.
     
  17. Zhiguli

    Zhiguli Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2012 California


    someone make the formula work for this

    12 oz can... $1.59 4.2%

    brain no work good
     
  18. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    My common sense dictates I buy my beer based on how much I like it's flavor, not ABV.

    In fact, there are situations where the lower ABV beer has more value to me than a high ABV beer. For example, if I have to drive somewhere... Try factoring the cost of getting a DUI into your ABV value calculator and see how economical it is. :rolling_eyes:
     
  19. 01Ryan10

    01Ryan10 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2011 California

    I guess if you're looking at only the first post in this thread, you can make that assumption. As I stated further into this thread, I would not compare an IPA with a RIS or any style vs style, nor do I do this outside of Costco.

    Actually...here is my first sentence from my original post...

    "When shopping, I sometimes quantify a value bypassing taste and smell." Key word in bold.

    Yes, to me, at Costco and the craft they offer, when comparing same style, "The best value beer is a craft beer with the highest alcohol content and the least price." You got it. That's a wrap. Lol.
     
  20. 01Ryan10

    01Ryan10 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2011 California

    Sorry, I don't drive buzzed. I guess those are things you have to worry about that don't apply to me.
     
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