Bicycles / Cycling and Beer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Kurmaraja, Sep 23, 2014.

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  1. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    Well, that's a surprise - something you relate to makes more sense? ;-)

    I'm making a distinction between "TEAM" kit and random branded stuff. I don't actually see many people wearing AT&T or Office Depot jerseys. But a few points that maybe help it make more sense.

    I assume if someone is wearing a Cheerio's jersey they got it for free or cheap (because this branded stuff is the cheapest stuff you can get). For random branded stuff, I know events and employers sometimes give these away as well. Assuming these factors, I give them a pass since they're on a bike either for exercise or transportation, both of which are good things IMHO. The ends justify the means; they want something more comfortable than a cotton shirt and they're not willing to pay for it. Event jersey's are the same way. Some people get really proud of doing organized events ... and with the obesity epidemic we have in our country, who am I to judge a person wearing a "tacky" event jersey as long as they're out riding.

    Then we get to the "team" kits. Not sure how familiar you are with cycling, but the instance I mentioned, Team Sky, is a professional team with riders that won the 2012 & 2013 Tour de France as well as many other races, so this is a close analogy to your "team jersey" or hat. The difference here is the economics between cycling and NFL. Cycling teams are funded by sponsors so any professional jersey will have many corporate logos on it. Sky is also sponsored by Jaguar, 21st Century Fox, Pinarello, and others. Wearing these is, I assume, a very similar kind of acknowledgement of fandom of the team and sport.

    And I won't be surprised if in the next 5 - 10 years we start seeing additional corporate advertising on NFL jerseys. It's an additional revenue stream; why wouldn't the NFL do it? Then we'll see how folks feel about jerseys advertising Skittles / Samsung / etc. Going by soccer jerseys - e.g. Seattle Sounders fans have no issue wearing a jersey that looks more about Xbox than soccer - I think it'll seem ok.
     
  2. Wylde

    Wylde Initiate (0) Oct 9, 2008 Ohio

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  3. ASak10

    ASak10 Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2014 Colorado

    What if the NFL starts allowing logos on their jerseys...would that stop making sense to you then? The issue is that if you want to wear the team kit of a pro team, you don't have a choice with the logos. It would be like wearing a European soccer jersey with the logo of the sponsor on the front. It's still a direct relationship, you just don't have a choice as to what is on the jersey.
     
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  4. kgncfl

    kgncfl Pundit (793) Dec 24, 2013 Washington
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    Says the golf guy who wears a glove to grip a club that already has a grip on it. Cyclists dress a certain way because it helps their performance much like your fancy golf shoes with little spikes help you swing better. Do you need those spikes? No? Does it help you play better? Of course.

    As for craft beer sponsoring golf, I believe that golf is more mainstream than cycling and has a wider audience. That audience is large enough for the BMC companies to take notice and therefore they market to this crowd. Golf also skews older while the current craft movement is skewing younger.
     
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  5. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Pooh-Bah (2,019) Mar 26, 2013 California
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    I would consider that dumb too
     
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  6. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    I've been an auto racing fan since childhood, so I'm used to having sponsorship plastered all over everything. The NFL, MLB, and NBA are all pretty close to having sponsorship logos on game Uni's, once one commits the rest will follow. At least the Seattle Seacows (the closest NFL team to me) already has logos on their practice jerseys.

    If you like a team, driver, rider, golfer, whatever, wearing their gear comes at a price, in a couple ways. If you buy an NFL jersey, that money is going into the pocket of an already rich dude (does Paul Allen or Jerry Jones really need another couple hundred bucks of your money? But, they're your team and you buy the stuff anyway). Wearing a replica cycling jersey while riding is no different than wearing a Russel Wilson jersey while playing touch football with your buddies.

    Back in the early 90s, when I was more heavily into cycling than I am now, the first time I ever heard of New Belgium, Full Sail, and a couple other breweries, was when I saw their cycling jerseys on sale in the Nashbar and Performance catalogs. The connection is long and strong between the craft brew and cycling worlds.
     
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  7. -N8

    -N8 Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2014 Germany

    When I lived in ABQ this is what is usually in my camel pak on mtb rides:
    Now that I live in Germany, there's a freekin' biergarten every 2km on the radweg at the most. :grinning:

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  8. Leebo

    Leebo Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Massachusetts

    You all are talking abut the wrong kind of bike. Mountain biking and beer drinkers, that's the combination. Roadies go to get a espresso after a ride. Mountain bikers would usually go get a beer, or have one in the parking lot after. Big difference between bike preferences.
     
  9. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    Maybe on the east coast, but from the Rockies west we roadies drink!
     
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  10. rather

    rather Initiate (0) May 31, 2013 California

    ya I was late to the party but now you know a fun fact about HB.
     
  11. Mizz

    Mizz Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2014 California

    Yeah, there definitely is / has been a relationship between bikes and coffee...as a matter of fact, my good friend @the_trystero, who roasts some bomb ass coffee here in L.A., was interviewed for a German TV show about the relationship between bikes and coffee.

    I can only speak from experience, I don't know a lot of mountain bikers, I do know some roadies, I definitely know a lot of daily commuters, bike weirdos, hipsters, hamsters, front basket riders, city bike cruisers, fixie freakers, and midnight ridazz, and most of these people are bikes and beer kinda folks.

    I don't know if Golden Road has jerseys (probably), and there are ALWAYS roadies at Golden Road, but I do know that Tony Yanow's bar, Tony's Darts Away, has jerseys, and a lot of S.F. Valley fast fixie riders wear them. Tony's also sponsors L.A. Derby Dolls, but I suppose roller derby + beer is a different conversation for another time. :slight_smile:
     
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  12. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Traditionally, yes. From my casual observations of roadies nowadays, the post-ride espresso seems to be getting replaced with beer.

    I also don't shave my legs, so I'm certainly not a traditionalist.
     
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  13. Wylde

    Wylde Initiate (0) Oct 9, 2008 Ohio

    Ive had plenty of beer in parking lots after races/rides. Espresso is for mid ride..beer after!
     
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  14. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Same here. Did a race the other day, and the post-race beers were exclusively Other Half (kegs, provided by the organizer)

    Uh-oh - was wondering when this would crop up haha
     
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  15. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Pooh-Bah (2,019) Mar 26, 2013 California
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    Yeah, I know Tony's does a lot of bike-related events, and their yearly bike ride thing.

    personally i commute to work, though not consistently as i work long hours often and don't want to ride home at 10pm after a 12 hour day. i'm a big supporter of cycling in LA but don't get me started on the Midnight Ridaz / Critical Mass people. i think their whole approach goes against what they're theoretically trying to achieve (more bicycle rights / awareness)

    but alas, i should stop sidetracking

    a beer after a bike ride is the ultimate!
     
  16. Thirstygoat

    Thirstygoat Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2012 Illinois
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    I don't know anything about the Coors International. I was referring to the Tour of Colorado also known as the USA Pro Challenge, 7 stages this August 18-24.
     
  17. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    If I rode with those in my camelback on one of my MTB rides I would spray half a county when I tried to open them. If I drank them first then the same half of county would be sprayed with me.
     
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  18. -N8

    -N8 Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2014 Germany

    That's just wasteful. :grinning:

    Maybe a tequila flask would be better for ye?
     
  19. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    God not tequila. That is a story involving a WV wedding after party and me being stupid. I do not get in the same room as tequila now.
     
  20. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    Interesting; USA Pro Challenge is sort of the descendent of the old Coors International. What Coors started, Sierra Nevada is finishing. Feel free to use this as a counterpoint whenever anybody talks about the good old days.
     
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