Selecting a Wine Drinker's First Beer

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  1. MakeMineADoubleJack

    MakeMineADoubleJack Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2014 North Carolina

    My step-father is a wine drinker. Has been since he was a young man: preferring reds, especially chiantis. Although he's in his mid-60s now, he's gone through life without ever having tasted a single beer. His major reason being that, the first time he smelled beer, he detested the odor. I'm sure that first beer he smelled was no better than Bud or pick-a-macro.

    To make a long story short, he said that he would let me choose the first beer he'd ever drink. But if he can't get past the smell, he won't taste it. Other than being a wine drinker, he also enjoys a good scotch every now and then.

    The question is this: What beer has the perfect nose and flavor profile to turn this man's opinion of beer upside down and back on the right track again?

    Nota bene: Although he enjoys scotch, he does not enjoy bourbon. I think that may cancel out any BBA beers.
     
  2. ceeg

    ceeg Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2010 New York

    My dad is a wine guy. Tho he does drink beer on occasion. I gave him an Orval and he was blown away!
     
  3. BenwayPHD

    BenwayPHD Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2014 California
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    My first instinct would be a sour, specifically Duchess de Bourgogne. But you could also go with a quad, maybe Three Philosophers. I would definitions pick something that has both fruit and yeast in the nose.
     
  4. turbotype

    turbotype Savant (1,035) Nov 5, 2013 California

    I would like to second both of those actually. A good belgian would work. Something simple yet awesome, like a Duvel or Chimay (blue or red, avoid white for a new taster). My second guess would be the sour. Its just weird and complex enough to catch a wine drinkers attention.
     
  5. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    Beer and wine is like apples and oranges yes? I mean try to compare your favorite red wine to any beer. Really? I say go with the moment. Intorduce that person to the beer YOU love. To what YOU are having with your meal. I agree that belgians would be my first choice in presenting to a wine drinker because of the dryness. Wine has a palate. Flavors that range from fruity likemelon to earthy like slate and choccolate to leather an tannins. Give them a good beer. Whatever that means in your presence and let them find out for themselves that beer is outstanding!
     
  6. Beer_Borg

    Beer_Borg Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2014 Kansas

    On another thread I suggested Sierra Nevada's Kellerweise to a beer newbie. He might like that. The aroma is not particularly strong and it has a very clean taste with no bitterness. Ommegang's Abbey Ale might be a more complex option to the Kellerweise and it's in your region.
     
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  7. Zhiguli

    Zhiguli Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2012 California

    Jacobin Rouge. I just tried it on several noobs on Sunday and got 3 people hunting for them now.
     
  8. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Your favourite beer (excluding anything BBA, I suppose, given your last sentence) - that way you can speak passionately and knowledgeably about why you think it is such a great beer.

    Personally I don't subscribe to the notion that a wine drinker is automatically going to like the "complexity" in a quad/sour etc - I know plenty of wine drinkers that prefer much more nuanced/subtle styles
     
  9. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    haha - see my post above - you must have responded as i was typing - totally agree!
     
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  10. rdilauro

    rdilauro Savant (1,100) Mar 8, 2010 Connecticut

    Spending a good portion of my life studying , teaching, selling and of course drinking wine, I would want to go with something substantial and with a relatively high abv.

    Given that, I would opt for either the Dog Fish Head 120 or the World Wide Stout... Probably leaning more towards the stout, only because it tasted someone like a aged tawny port
     
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  11. jbck109

    jbck109 Initiate (0) May 30, 2010 Michigan

    If you want to give him a beer that resembles wine to peek his interest, try to get your hands some consecration. Definitely the red wine of beers.
     
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  12. Beer_Borg

    Beer_Borg Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2014 Kansas

    Another option would be Ayinger Celebrator Doppelbock. It's one of the best beers I've had and would probably fit in well with his chianti/scotch preference.
     
  13. DaveAnderson

    DaveAnderson Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2011 Minnesota

    I wouldn't waste time or good beer on someone who won't even commit to a taste. That's a child's response to encountering something new, like goat cheese or asparagus. What adult isn't willing to at least try a taste of something that a lot of other people obviously enjoy, and about which one person right in front of him is enthusiastic?

    Heck, I try Pumking every year, even though I don't like the way it smells. I even thought last year's was not bad.
     
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  14. rather

    rather Initiate (0) May 31, 2013 California

    chimay blue is a good suggestion. my dad is big into wine and he liked it.
     
  15. msigona85

    msigona85 Zealot (504) Jun 16, 2008 New York

    If he's a Scotch fan, I think skull splitter is worth a try
     
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  16. hophead_87

    hophead_87 Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2014 Virginia

    I enjoy red wine myself, and I found the most natural transition for me was going darker honestly. Red wine and porters/stouts can share the bigger/bolder/deeper flavor. I would try Old Rasputin. Easily available and a "gateway" beer IMO.
     
  17. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    To go your whole life into your 60's as someone who has no issues with drinking alcholic beverages but never try a beer? Booo that is just un-American! Tell him to move to France, and pack some Mickey's in his suitcase!
     
  18. HeartofMiami

    HeartofMiami Pooh-Bah (2,357) Sep 20, 2014 Florida
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    Most wine drinkers I know seem to prefer the belgian style beers as mentioned by other posters (although I'm not sure why). I agree with the idea of letting him try what you really like with some background on flavor profile, etc. I'm sure he drank many wines and scotches before he found the few he likes most
     
  19. PSU_Mike

    PSU_Mike Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Contrary to what some are saying, I would avoid a sour. Sour characteristics in wine are a huge negative and would more than likely be poorly received.

    Something simple, flavorful, and mild would be my choice.
     
  20. kdb150

    kdb150 Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Easy. Rochefort 10. It is the best beer I've ever smelled. Bonus is that it's fruity, complex, and fairly dry - qualities that make it pretty accessible to a wine drinker.
     
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