Two roads "Lambic" series

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  1. Seanniek91

    Seanniek91 Maven (1,276) Jul 1, 2012 Rhode Island
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    so Two Roads brewing is releasing their "lambic series" tomorrow at the brewery. I just found out about this and was curious if anyone knew the production behind these beers. Do they have a coolship? Have they really done any other wild ales before? Did anyone try these at the dinner they held for the release of the beers? Any info would be appreciated.
     
  2. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
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    No, they don't have a coolship.

    It's a naked attempt to capitalize on a current trend.

    http://beerservedrare.wordpress.com/2014/10/22/two-roads-brewing-sourcopia-oct-25/
     
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  3. TheMagnanimous

    TheMagnanimous Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2011 Vermont

    Sorry if this isn't too much help but from what I've heard, the head brewer Phil Markowski previously brewed some outstanding wilds when he was at Southampton.

    Also heard it's supposed to be $10/375ml of Gueze and Kriek and $25/22oz of Philsamic with a limit of 2 bottles per style/per person.
     
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  4. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    They have done a wild ale before. (Urban Funk) Meh. They haven't even mastered most of the standard styles. I can't think these will be anything but subpar.
     
  5. Seanniek91

    Seanniek91 Maven (1,276) Jul 1, 2012 Rhode Island
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    Two roads is not a very good brewery. Everything is mediocre at best. I just find it odd how Sean Lawson brews SoS there and now they're brewing a "lambic". Just wondering if there was something to this brewery I didn't realize.

    The brewer was at Southhampton when Black raspberry lambix and peconic were made? I
     
  6. PierogiSmash

    PierogiSmash Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2014 Massachusetts

    Lil Heaven and Olfactory Pils are pretty damn good beers. Road to Ruin is at least at Larry level to me, maybe a bit better. Honestly, I don't get the hate for these guys.
     
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  7. EDNOSE

    EDNOSE Pundit (996) Oct 27, 2007 Connecticut

    Couldn't agree more ... I think they get bashed because they are big and/or aren't as good as NEBCO, but the three you mentioned are solid offerings. I enjoyed the Unorthodox they just released, as well. Again, a solid beer.

    They also are doing a lot for the east coast beer scene with their contract relationships.
     
  8. Bizoneill

    Bizoneill Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2012 Connecticut

    It seems that most people tried them once and never went back... Their core beers keep getting better every time they brew them. Try them again and then again in another few months you'll see what I mean. :wink:
     
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  9. Hirshi

    Hirshi Initiate (0) May 1, 2012 New York

    Gonna trust Phil on this one. See you guys Saturday.
     
  10. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    agree. won't be there, but i agree.

    if you think two roads can't brew, try sip of sunshine. i haven't liked much of their core stuff, but the talent and skill are there.
     
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  11. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts


    Olfactory is quite good. The rest of their lineup is mediocre at best imo. I don't hate them but seeing that they haven't yet nailed down more simple styles is concerning. You can count the truly amazing American made lambics on one hand that is missing fingers. But somehow you are trusting these to be good? From a brewery with a couple of "pretty damn good" beers and IPA skills that barely edge out Larry? They aren't coming close to using traditional methods, they are using the term lambic as a marketing ploy.
     
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  12. LopeJuice

    LopeJuice Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2012 New York
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    All the Southampton heavy hitters are his creations (Peconic, SHBRL, IRS, etc). Why Two Roads can't brew anything worth buying is beyond me. This release is gonna be the last shot I give them before "b-b-but Phil Markowski brewed it" holds no water, personally.
     
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  13. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    Sean Lawson had been traveling there to brew this beer every month. Not exactly a show of the Two Roads skill.
     
  14. pjs234

    pjs234 Maven (1,453) Jun 29, 2008 Connecticut

    2 Roads did not brew sip of sunshine, it was brewed by Lawson's at 2 roads because they liked the Stafford water.
     
  15. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,230) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    You don't need a coolship to make wild ales, Russian River brewed Beat before they had a coolship.

    now using the term gueuze is more controversial b/c I don't know if this is a blend or what or what the beer actually is
     
  16. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    If you want to try to use the word lambic instead of wild ale, you do. Though the word shouldn't be used here anyhow.
     
  17. Seanniek91

    Seanniek91 Maven (1,276) Jul 1, 2012 Rhode Island
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    No, using therm lambic is more controversial
     
  18. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,230) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    well the beers are called

    • Kriek/Gueuze – $10 per 375mL bottle, 700 of each available
    • Philsamic – $25 per 750mL bottle, 500 available
    and they are saying

    "Two lambic style beers and a special beer commemorating Brewmaster Phil Markowski’s 25 years of craft brewing will be on sale."

    I don't particularly have a problem with that. would you have a problem if they said "these beers are sour and inspired by the lambics of Belgium"? B/c that's all I really see them doing. RR invented the term Sonambic just by combining Lambic and Sonoma
     
  19. LopeJuice

    LopeJuice Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2012 New York
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    Ignoring the fact that they were brewed in the US, they don't seem very "lambic style" not having been spontaneously fermented... If the "Gueuze" isn't actually a blend of 1, 2, and 3s then I don't even get how you could call it anything similar to a Gueuze...
     
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  20. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,230) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    the methods are different sure. but I think you are referencing the means to the end, while Two Roads is using the end product (which may/wil/should end up with lots of similar characteristics to the other referenced styles) as a justification for the description. I can see both sides here.
     
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