A discussion about Art

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by mlhyatt, Oct 26, 2014.

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  1. mlhyatt

    mlhyatt Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 Georgia

    I'm trying very hard to understand the hype behind this beer. A barrel aged saison rated at 4.35 that honestly does not sound very appetizing. It's trading for cake sets, Db huna, and assassin among others. I understand that rarity has a play at this, but I have found that HF beers are slightly above mediocre. And this is no different. Someone please explain to me the hype behind this beer and why it trades so high. But I may never understand why lower quality beers trade higher than high quality beers.
     
    #1 mlhyatt, Oct 26, 2014
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  2. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Pooh-Bah (2,116) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
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    While I think generally that HF beers are very good, I agree here... I just don't understand the hype train on this one... I actually had this side-by-side with Arthur a few months back and I actually preferred the more reasonably priced and more readily available base beer, Arthur... but that's just one man's opinion
     
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  3. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    Gotta have this bottle right now at this moment and be seen drinking it or have it on my cellar list. Otherwise nobody else in the beer community will take me seriously.

    /sarcasm
     
    #3 Stevedore, Oct 26, 2014
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  4. ResIpsaLoquitur

    ResIpsaLoquitur Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2010 New York
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    you had this a few months back? Interesting, because this batch of Art is not the same as the prior batches. Please share your time machine with me, my friend,, lol.
     
    #4 ResIpsaLoquitur, Oct 26, 2014
  5. drummermattie02

    drummermattie02 Initiate (0) May 10, 2009 Texas

    OP, weird assumption that this is a low quality beer, but setting that aside it sounds like you can save a lot of heartache -- and good beer -- by avoiding trading for HF beers in general, since you don't care for them. I think a lot of people go crazy for their stuff (e.g., I know many people who thought Sarrasin was more impressive than I did), and you're lucky to not be one of them.

    Personally, the last batch of Art when fresh was pretty awesome, so I'll be eager to see how this one is as well. I'm not sure a sample of the past batch (even ignoring the differences with current batch) from a couple months ago is really a good snapshot, considering that wine barrel saisons might be best consumed fresh[er]. But, like I said, if you don't see the hype, that's a good thing. You get to avoid trying Art and keep your good beers.
     
    #5 drummermattie02, Oct 26, 2014
  6. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Pooh-Bah (2,116) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
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    Safe to assume that I'm referring to a previous batch then, right?
     
    #6 Kramerbarthomer, Oct 26, 2014
  7. ResIpsaLoquitur

    ResIpsaLoquitur Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2010 New York
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    Actually, no. No one who doesn't know the batches differ would know that. Right?
     
    #7 ResIpsaLoquitur, Oct 26, 2014
  8. HugeBulge

    HugeBulge Savant (1,132) Dec 31, 2012 New York

    Yes, this was released on Wednesday.
     
    #8 HugeBulge, Oct 26, 2014
  9. HugeBulge

    HugeBulge Savant (1,132) Dec 31, 2012 New York

    You should have used the word rated instead of quality in your post and its always rarity that makes it trade so high. Bcbcs and db cake have the same 4.68, should they trade even?

    Your head is probably going to explode when Ann is released.
     
    #9 HugeBulge, Oct 26, 2014
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  10. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

    sorry, stopped reading there :stuck_out_tongue:
     
    #10 markgugs, Oct 26, 2014
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  11. mlhyatt

    mlhyatt Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 Georgia


    You're right i should have used rated, thanks for pointing that out. But rarity doesn't always have a play in its trade value, lots of FFF beers that have 500 or bottle counts don't trade very high. I think it mainly stems from Shaun Hill touching this beer. Everything he touches jumps in value regardless of actual goodness.

    Haha, based on your location i'm not surprised :wink:. I have given HF a fair shot to impress me, but they just didn't deliver for me. Don't get me wrong they are prerty decent beers but they weren't any better than i can get in the shelf wherever i go.
    That said i do want to try some BG&E, so anyone who wants to convince to like HF feel free to send me a bottle :slight_smile:
     
    #11 mlhyatt, Oct 26, 2014
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  12. ResIpsaLoquitur

    ResIpsaLoquitur Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2010 New York
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    Op has multiple db huna, assassin, mexican cakes for trade.

    Op is upset Art is trading 1:1 for his bottles.(actually trading above fwiw)

    I'm beginning to understand.
     
    #12 ResIpsaLoquitur, Oct 26, 2014
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  13. fiedler84

    fiedler84 Zealot (722) Dec 23, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Probably safe to assume OP isn't big into Saisons. HFS makes some of the best Saisons and IPA's.
     
    #13 fiedler84, Oct 26, 2014
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  14. mlhyatt

    mlhyatt Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 Georgia

    Haha, it could trade for parabola and I would pass it up.

    I enjoy a good saison, just completed a trade for stenciled pages. Just don't understand the hype on this one.
     
    #14 mlhyatt, Oct 26, 2014
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  15. bahnfire

    bahnfire Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2011 Vermont

    Haha, I'd love to have access to whatever magical store you do. Comments like this make it impossible to take you seriously.
     
    #15 bahnfire, Oct 26, 2014
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  16. mlhyatt

    mlhyatt Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 Georgia

    Coming from someone who lives in Vermont. It's just a matter of personal preference, that's all. I would drink gose, ten fidy, jai alai, sucks and other shelf over HF. Maybe i just haven't the one beer that will change my mind about HF.

    I understand i'm in the minority when it comes to HF beers.
     
    #16 mlhyatt, Oct 26, 2014
  17. HugeBulge

    HugeBulge Savant (1,132) Dec 31, 2012 New York

    I made a bunch of trades for jai alai before we got distro in ny but it doesn't really compare to HF ipa's. It just looks like your trolling with your comments.
     
    #17 HugeBulge, Oct 26, 2014
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  18. thegoon55

    thegoon55 Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2012 Massachusetts

    only thing im going to say is :confused::astonished::confused: I think your pallet may be broken.
     
    #18 thegoon55, Oct 26, 2014
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  19. Respirologist

    Respirologist Pundit (756) Feb 26, 2013 Massachusetts
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    HF makes the best beer I've ever tasted. Your palate is busted brah. Please hit reset button.
     
    #19 Respirologist, Oct 26, 2014
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  20. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

    c'mon man lol

    that's not the minority, it's an island of one (my NJ location has nothing to do with my feelings on HF - you make it sound like I can just hop on up to Greensboro Bend, VT any ol' day)
     
    #20 markgugs, Oct 26, 2014
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