Why diacetyl drop time is tooo long?

what in the world does 'ytuo' and 'rte5' mean?
and what is your fermentation schedule/yeast choice?

 

Drunk post?

Either way, I voted for the 2nd one.

 

ytuo all the way. @scurvy311 I don't know what the hell you're thinking with rte5.

@coolNeelam: Great first post.

 

I knew you're say that. You've posted this before, but I'd like to hear you finally explain this once and for all. You know, every group has the one guy that says "I always boil my ytuo and I've never had an issue with the rte5." Are those people just lying?

 

Dr. Chris White said so.

 

No need to make up names as references to justify your rte5ism.

 

Did you pitch adequate healthy yeast to begin with?
Did you oxygenate at all? Not necessary from a gravity standpoint, but it helps in the long run w/ diacetyl reduction
Are you fermenting at a colder temperature? (will take longer for yeast to reduce diacetyl if you are)
Was your fermentation rapid or slow?
Have you done a diacetyl rest? (ie raise your fermentation temperature at this point to something around 68F - 72F)
Did you use a very flocculant strain of yeast? (common in a mild, but they don't reduce diacetyl as well)
Any chance you are getting oxygen ingress in your fermenter? (can cause diacetyl formation)
Did you add yeast nutrient at the end of the boil? (without the added zinc, diacetyl increases)
Did you carry zero cold break over into the fermenter? (can increase diacetyl)

 

He didn't get any karma points for this one either.

 

I thought everyone knew that "ytuo" was used by crazed-Norsemen in their Mead Halls. You have to consider that VikeMan, with his Norse roots, will never accept anything different. By all modern convention, "rte5" has been the gold standard to reduce diacetyl drop time . . . I just re-ordered some rte5-nutrient. Whenever I come across any ytuo I soak in it PBW for 24 hours followed by a thorough Starsan rinse.

 

While the yeast labs suggest "ytuo" as a rule of thumb, we can do better. I'm surprised you haven't incorporated a rate-based estimate into Brewcipher yet.

 

rte5 for sure.

 

we are facing a long lag time like 3 days in our quest to decifer your post. what could be the probable cause for this,any suggestions. Our votes are in Please help

ytuo is obviously Yeast Trub Utilization Overdose.

but what the hell is rte5?

Residual Trub Extrapolated to the Power of 5?

 

Yes, that's the modern translation. But the original meaning comes from Viking lore. As brewers have done for centuries, the Vikings brewed with local ingredients . . . to reduce diacetyl they added reindeer-entrails and vomit. So ytuo stands for guts & puke in Old Norse. Of course it did little to eliminate diacetyl, but it was so vile that no one complained about a little buttery off flavor. To date, no BJCP judge has ever ding'ed a ytuo-enhanced brew for diacetyl, or for that matter actually swallowed a sample.

The origins of rte5 come from the monasteries of Belgium. In ancient times the monks were known to mediate and pray while waiting for the strike water to rise. As legend goes, a particularly prayerful brewer saw a vision, divine intervention for sure . . . and this vision of Beer-Greatness passed on the now famous quote, "relax dude, have another homebrew, or five". In original Flemish/Francais this was shortened to rte5. This vision lead to the creation of Trappist ales, German doppelbocks, and has even migrated to west-coast IPAs.

So you decide how you want to reduce diacetyl . . . it's pretty clear for me. Good poll.

 

I didn't look it up but I am sure Palmer can clarify ytou and rte5. Again I didn't bother looking it up but I am pretty sure sulfate and chloride and brass is involved.

How to Brew

 

I regularly have issues where the ratio of ytuo to rte5 becomes inverted resulting in a condition I refer to as fecteration.

 

Thankyou for shedding some light on what has been a rather ambiguous post thus far. Based on this new information I am changing my vote to rte5. With baited anticipation I look forward to the Annual International rte5 Day.

 

Epic.

 

If I could I'd give you 10 'Likes' just for the time and imagination that it had to take you to create this response.

 

Very Douglas Adams of you. It read like a passage from his old radio shows.