Pale Ale advice

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by ejc03, Nov 16, 2014.

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  1. TEKNISHE

    TEKNISHE Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Um, i think this might be the antithesis of what the OP is seeking. And to be fair, so are half the suggestions on this thread. I wish i could help out the OP,but I have nothing to offer...my tastes gravitate towards the "wrong" suggestions.
     
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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The difference between an English Pale Ale and an American Pale Ale is not just the variance of hopping levels but also the type of hops used.

    It would appear that @ejc03 is looking for a beer that is both modestly hopped (which results in more balance between hops and malt) plus the more subdued flavors that English hops like East Kent Goldings (or Fuggles) provides.

    A number of folks have recommended Firestone Walker Double Barrel Ale. It has been a long time since I had this beer so I do not exactly recall the malt vs. hop balance of this beer but this beer certainly has the appropriate variety of hops for an English Pale Ale:

    “hops

    Bittering—Magnum; Late Kettle—Styrian Golding, East Kent Golding; Dry Hops—East Kent Golding”

    The fact that FW Double Barrel Ale is dry hopped may provide a bit more hop aroma than is present in Samuel Smith Old Brewery Pale Ale but it is certainly a good beer to try from an English Pale Ale style perspective.

    Cheers!
     
  3. ESHBG

    ESHBG Pooh-Bah (2,099) Jul 30, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    In all fairness to the posters most of our palates are so fried that these suggestions aren't really hoppy beers to us anymore so we don't know any better. :wink:

    I like Victory Headwaters but I haven't had it in some time so I had one recently and I swear they upped the hops on that thing, as it was way hoppier than I remembered it being.

    OP, I would recommend Deutsches Mirror Pond Pale Ale if you can get it in your area.
     
  4. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    And the yeast. Most American pales use a very clean yeast, whereas English pales tend to have added yeast complexity which manifest as subtle stone fruit esters.

    For English style - I like Cisco Whale Tale Pale ale
     
  5. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Haha! So true. To defend myself I didn't read the post though. Just saw "best pale ales" and thought I don't need to read anymore the answer is lagunitas.
     
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  6. Davidstan

    Davidstan Savant (1,189) May 24, 2014 Alabama
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    Dales Pale Ale but first on the list is SNPA IMO
     
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  7. timotao

    timotao Pundit (984) Sep 16, 2013 New York
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    It's interesting how our palates change. I remember the first time I had SNPA back in the 90's. It was the most bitter hop bomb I've ever tasted at the time.
     
  8. WesMantooth

    WesMantooth Grand Pooh-Bah (4,844) Jan 8, 2014 Ohio
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    What he said^

    One beer that come to mind though that should be right up your alley is Great Divide Denver Pale Ale. Very heavy, malty pale. You may want to stray a little and try some wheat pale ales. I know Lagunitas Sumpin' Sumpin' is almost solely responsible for my transition into more hop forward beers.

    I also think that Dale's Pale Ale, (already mentioned) Deschutes Mirror Pond, and even Bell's Two hearted are actually pretty balanced.
     
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  9. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Goose Island Honkers Ale should do the trick.

    Also, Mendocino ales have an English type flavor and balance to them, so maybe give their Red Tail Ale a shot.
     
  10. Redneckwine

    Redneckwine Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 Washington

    Deschutes Mirror Pond can do no wrong, pretty much exactly like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. Firestone Pale 31 is great too. If you find those too hoppy, you're probably better off staying away from the American Pale Ale category and in general, and venture towards the amber ale/lager territory, or beers specifically categorized as an English bitter, mild, or pale ale.
     
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  11. xShoWTeKx

    xShoWTeKx Pundit (994) Jan 21, 2013 South Carolina
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    I am not sure if Highland makes it that way, if so then definitely give St Teresa's Pale a try. It's a bit on the fruity hop side but it is far from being harsh. One of the more balanced PA's I've had.
     
  12. mikebaltz

    mikebaltz Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2008 Maryland

    No recommendations, just an observation....whole bunch of y'all can't read. :-)
     
  13. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    Got to mention Anchor Liberty Ale, it helped define the style in America along with SNPA.
     
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  14. ConradSomm

    ConradSomm Initiate (0) Oct 15, 2014 Illinois

    Temperance Gatecrasher out of Evanston IL, if you get it down there. It calls itself an IPA, but it is very balanced, and truly English-style, unlike many of the other beers being called out in this thread.
     
  15. Brutaltruth

    Brutaltruth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,539) Mar 22, 2014 Ohio
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    For a cheap examination try the Saranac pale, it's a good starting point and highly sessionable for such a reasonably priced brew.
     
  16. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Smuttynose Shoals Pale Ale is an English Style and tasty
     
  17. deleted_user_357747

    deleted_user_357747 Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2009

    +1 on Denver and Mirror Pond. Also, Odells 5 Barrel is a outstanding English pale ale.
     
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  18. RalphArdmoreBeerShoppe

    RalphArdmoreBeerShoppe Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Two Brothers Sidekick is great if you see their stuff where you're at.
     
  19. GR_Rick

    GR_Rick Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2012 Michigan

    It is a bit hard to find lower-IBU/less bitter/less hoppy APA's - especially with the recent trend toward making APA's closer to what even 5-10 years ago I suspect was called an IPA. Anyway - a few suggestions:

    1.) New Holland (not sure of distro in MO) just released an oak-aged pale called Carhartt Woodsman - an excellent, relatively mild 'American Pale".
    2.) I might look at what many breweries call Blonde or Amber ales. Usually relatively less hoppy but still American in style.

    Good luck!
     
  20. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    Stone's Pale Ale is more malty than most American versions, similar to english styles, and widely distributed.

    It's a surprising offering from stone, who generally lives by the "more is better" hop philosophy.
     
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