The Problem with American Craft

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  1. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    I'd like to hear thoughts on the problems with American Craft beer as a style. I may be alone in this but I feel like due beer in the states being so hop forward, many brewers and/or breweries compensate for a lack of flavor, originality or quality by simply making and advertising their beer as either hoppy or bitter as hell. I have nothing against hoppy beer in and of itself as long as it is not hoppy for hoppiness' sake. Additionally I feel as though through the establishment of various american styles and/or american versions of other styles a lot of breweries have sprung up that are awful, painfully average or simply unnecessary. Thoughts?
     
  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    We really don't have that problem in SE PA.

    We have or have access to multiple small to medium sized breweries that produce a lots of nice beers in a reasonable variety of non-hoppy styles.

    Doesn't mean there are no breweries here that fit your description/stereotype, but they tend not to survive more than a few years because the customers understand that it takes more than just lots of hops in a kettle to make a good beer.
     
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  3. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    not a single boring beer? well that is impressive
     
  4. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,966) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    Alabama is young in the craft game. If you've explored everything Alabama has to offer, just wait. Things change, brewers progress and make new styles.

    I don't agree with your statements. "American Craft Style" is WAY WAY more than just hoppy beers. You just haven't experienced it yet
     
  5. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    I didn't say there wasn't at least one. I said its not the norm. There are lots of interesting beers around here that don't fit your description in the OP.
     
  6. mabermud

    mabermud Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2006 Washington

    I don't think there is a problem with American Craft.
     
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  7. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    No, I try things from all over, I'm aware that it is more than hoppy beer, my point is that there are far too many brewers, at least that I have seen, who rest on the bitterness or hop forward laurel, I'm simply pointing out that in a booming craft market there are artists and craftsman and then there seem to be a lot of bandwagoners who flood the market with unnecessary beer, there are tons of fantastic american breweries but there are tons more who don't seem to understand the craft element of craft beer
     
  8. spacecake9

    spacecake9 Pooh-Bah (2,202) Apr 26, 2014 Illinois
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    There are so many wonderfully different beers being made in the U.S. today that the hop forward category is just one of them. Seek out the others, they are all there to be tasted and enjoyed.
     
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  9. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,966) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    when is beer "necessary"
     
  10. Horbar

    Horbar Pooh-Bah (1,593) Feb 24, 2012 Rhode Island
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    The problem is too many mediocre breweries.
     
  11. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    you dont think that the market flood could cause problems? Sometimes I fear that it could bury some of the best breweries at least to the new crowd trying to get into the craft beer world
     
  12. beardown2489

    beardown2489 Pooh-Bah (1,966) Oct 5, 2012 Illinois
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    Also, if you are propsing that we need to be more "european" in our craft, take a look. Most european craft markets are aiming to lean more towards the american hop theme in their pale beers.
     
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  13. charlzm

    charlzm Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2007 California

    Many (if not most) small breweries I visit have a variety of beers on tap. there are plenty of approachable amber ales, pale ales, kolsch, dry stouts, porters, etc... that are not extreme in any way. Most of these are only distributed near the breweries and usually on draft only.
     
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  14. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    that was my feeling
     
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  15. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    I suppose what I meant by that is that there are many beers that are redundant and essentially have nothing new or different to offer
     
  16. FutureJack

    FutureJack Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2007 California

    There will always be artists/craftsmen/brewers who are better than others. Find what you like. Let the market sort itself out.

    I have yet to have one of these "unnecessary" beers of which you speak.
     
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  17. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    For a lot of "craft" brewers, their main emphasis seems to be finding new, more intense, and "better" flavors than on actually perfecting their craft.
     
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  18. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    I think there are major problems.

    Too much of it is mediocre.
    Too much of it is just overwhelming added flavors to cover an underlying mediocre beer.
    Too much of it is far too gimmicky.
     
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  19. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    I was not suggesting being more european necessarily, what I was suggesting is really to focus more on stylistic innovation beyond the scope of experimental beers, so it would be kind of trying simply to make something that is a good beer instead of something that is trendy
     
  20. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    And from the consumer side, I think there's too much support for the mediocre places, especially if they've been around for a few years and seem to lack potential.

    Too much support for some places just because it is local.
    Too much support from people who just try it once to tick it.

    I am really, really looking forward to a shake out in craft beer where the mediocre ones go away. I wish more people would "drink best", drink what they think tastes the best, rather than choosing to support something for other reasons.
     
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