Starter Sour

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  1. TheNoodleIncident

    TheNoodleIncident Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2012 New York

    Can anyone recommend a decent starter sour for me? Haven't really had any (not that I can recall at least), but I think I would dig the style. I'm mostly looking for something that is enjoyable but on the cheap side - trying to stick to a budget. Not so concerned about it being too sour or funky, cause I think I would like that. Sort of looking for the SNPA of sours.

    If this has been discussed before, fee free to direct me elsewhere - I did a search and didn't find exactly what I want.
     
  2. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    For a Flanders Red - Duchesse de Bourgogne, Cuvee de Ranke
    Gueuze - Boon Gueuze or Lindemans Cuvee Rene
    Fruitier - Aecht Kriekenbier or Kasteel Rouge

    Sorry I went all Belgian, For American:
    New Belgium Tart Lychee (La Folie is $15/22 oz bottle--too much for me) or RR Consecration/Sacntification. $10 per bottle isnt bad for as good as they are.
     
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  3. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    One of the ones I started with was New Belgium La Folie.
     
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  4. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

  5. FTowne

    FTowne Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 Missouri

    Do yourself and your bank account a favor. NEVER try a sour/wild ale. Trust me. You can thank me later.
     
  6. MaxSpang

    MaxSpang Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2011 Ohio
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    Great starter sour, very approachable.

    I would also recommend 1809:
    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/23495/36378

    Very tasty, reasonably priced, and pretty widely available.
     
  7. riotinmyskull

    riotinmyskull Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2011 Virginia

    Bell's Oarsman - cheap and delicious
     
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  8. checktherhyme

    checktherhyme Savant (1,036) Apr 8, 2008 Washington

    I started off liking the Flanders Red style first. I think the sweetness in them is very approachable. The Duchesse de Bourgogne was the beer that really turned me on to sours, and it is pretty easy to find! I'd start with that.
     
  9. TheNoodleIncident

    TheNoodleIncident Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2012 New York

    Yeah, I was worried that might be the case. I think I need a quick education in sours - I assume 6-packs are not the thing? So if that's the case, what should I expect to pay for a typical bomber/750? Specically the ones above? Am I mostly looking at foreign brewers only, or is there some decent domestic stuff?

    I've also seen some beers that mention they are wild ales (Lagunitas Little Sumpin Wild, even Sam Adams farmhouse ale), but do these qualify? I guess I don't even know if sours and wilds are the same thing.
     
  10. Soonami

    Soonami Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Some great beers have been mentioned. I think they have most of them covered that I can think of. The cheapest you'll find most sours is about $5 for a 12 oz portion. Some like Petrus Aged Pale might be around $4 and sometimes Rodenbach Grand Cru 750's can be found for about $9, however, this is not a game for those with a thin wallet.

    Other good values are often found in 375ml bottles like Lindemann Cuvee Rene ($6), Oud Beersel (not that great, but generally cheap), Boon Oude Gueuze ($7), etc.
     
  11. checktherhyme

    checktherhyme Savant (1,036) Apr 8, 2008 Washington

    Wild ales are sometimes sour; however the two you mentioned are not. Maybe a little brett funk, but no real sour. Most sours are sold in the single bottle format and range from $6-20$. Id start with the cheap ones because price does not always mean quality. My favorite sour to this day is still the Duchesse ($6).
     
  12. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    see I would argue with this. Oud Beersel is just insanely sour, even by gueuze standards. Cantillon Classic is more approachable for someone like me. Girardin was even more sour and acidic. St. Louis Gueuze Fond Tradition is another cheap and decent one.
     
  13. FTowne

    FTowne Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 Missouri

    This is a really good recommendation. Cost effective way to satisfy a sour craving.
     
  14. KellerBrau

    KellerBrau Initiate (0) Oct 13, 2010 Oregon

    For additional excellent American sours, I don't think you can go wrong with anything from Cascade in Portland, OR. If I am not mistaken, NY is one of the few eastern states where they distribute. Their usual bottled offerings are $18-22 for a 750mL locally.
     
  15. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    Boon Gueuze, Rodenbach, Duchesse de Bourgogne can all be had fairly cheaply and are still some of my favorite beers.
     
  16. Soonami

    Soonami Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Cantillon is a better gueuze than Oud Beersel for sure, but it's almost impossible to find and 375ml in the Philly market are often $13-17 retail. ~$30 for 750mls. Girardin is great, but again $12-14 here in Philly.

    St. Louis Fond Tradtion is a great recommendation. There is variation from bottle to bottle, I've had some that were stellar and others that were insipid. 375's usually run for about $7 when I see them
     
  17. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    Their Kriek has been on shelves down here at this one store for what seems like a year. so has Hanssens Oud Gueuze and Experimental Raspberry/Cassis (OP avoid those; theyre the most sour drinks on the planet).
     
  18. TheNoodleIncident

    TheNoodleIncident Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2012 New York

    I also want to know how sour these things are. I mean, I've had some beers that have sour characteristics, but are we talking like sucking on a lemon sour? Or is it a different "type" of sour. Oh, I've also had some beers that have a pee flavor (no, I haven't drank pee, it's just how I imagine it would taste from the smell), which I oddly liked - is that sort of the same thing?
     
  19. brewbetter

    brewbetter Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2012 Nauru

    One place by me sells Rodenbach Grand Cru 750ml for $5.99.
    Beyond that, the cheapest options will be whatever your place has in stock. Look out for any Gueuzes, you might find fond tradition, cuvee Rene, haansens oude gueuze, or girardin. Try whatever you can find, but like many have said, don't go crazy looking for things or you will end up spending a lot.
     
  20. Soonami

    Soonami Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Often vinegar or lemon juice sour.
     
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