Why no love for these breweries?

pretty sure Southern Tier has many fans here. I love Unearthly. I love their Black IPA as well. 2XIPA is great. They do many beers really really well. I just dont personally like Chokolat or Creme Brulee. Only had a couple of Heavy Seas beers. Not enough experience to say anything one way or the other.

 

I can't taste the rare in any of their beers.

 

Southern Tier was a staple for me through college. Inexpensive as far as craft goes and good quality

 

A grand total of 1 (that's one) of the beers the late, great Michael Jackson classified as world-class is on the Top 100 list here. What did you expect?

 

Southern Tier is a well respected brewery. so im not sure what your rambling on about. besides, unless it is available in all time zones what do you expect?

as for all of the other acronyms, honest, ICK every brewery, EA20Years of drinking craft. FSS, TTU the actual NOTB and not JTA.

Cheers.

 

Because diabeetus.

 

But how many of the beers in Top 100 did he actually have?

/one man's opinion doesn't mean shit

 

Southern Tier gets plenty of kudos from the BA's. Heck, Oak Aged Unearthly is on the Top 100 Beers of Fame right now. It may not be in trade demand because it has a wide range of avilablility.

 

Simple: the breweries you mention did not purchase tickets on the hype train.

Rather, they brew quality beer, and in quantity to meet their distro platform, as a result, their beer doesn't induce chubbies for most BA's. So they wait, for somebody like me to walk up, drink their beer and be satisfied I can go grab another bottle next week without standing out in the freezing fucking cold for four hours to get a half rack of beer.

 

ST AND HS are pretty easy to find in most states, or at least easily available for trades. The Wales mentioned in the OP are Wales because they're, well, Wales. Mostly brewed in limited quantity or only available in very limited regions. Therefore, most people can't easily get them.

 

To be fair, heavy seas is also hit or miss. Pumpkin, loose cannon, peg leg and below decks are awesome..most other stuff is kind of meh

 

easy to get. i'm sure people trade for them, but you wouldn't expect the ISO:FT boards to light up with requests for stuff so easy to find.

also, the demand for pumking at least used to be pretty high. probably still is; just seasonal.

ST a bit of a polarizer. the only thing i've had of theirs worth actually trading for would be oak aged cuvee #1 (which is definitely over the hill now). most BAs didn't even like that one, but i thought it was awesome. unearthly i could go without ever drinking again and be happy (and this is probably how my life will go), though i like oak aged unearthly. i'm one of the few people who just kind of likes their imperial stouts (rather than loving or hating them). fresh 2XIPA is quite good.

 

Is this another thinly veiled post about how beers with millennia of tradition ain't got shit on U.S. craft beers of the last 10 years?

 

Is this another thinly veiled post about how beers with millennia of tradition ain't got shit on U.S. craft beers of the last 10 years?

 

Fair enough. Here's some further context from Jackson (from a 1994 edition of his pocket guide) about beers of 10+% that comprise 35% of the top 100 here: "...such muscle has limited application. These are beers of excellent quality, but they would be best dispensed from small barrels suspended from the necks of mountain-rescue dogs. Whether they revive or stun the recipient depends upon the constitution of the drinker."

 

St. Bernard, pray for us BAs....

 

i figure after you have written the first and second general authorities on beer you might feel this way.
if you were to perhaps create the entire concept of beer styles, not imagined much less codified after a mere 1,000 years of brewing tradition, then yes... one mans opinion ain't worth shit.

for the rest of us who have bothered to read a book, we tend to value some opinions with rather more regard than others.
that is my observation anyway.
Cheers.