What Do the Big Guys Not Understand??

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by SteveB24, Dec 1, 2014.

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  1. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    http://nypost.com/2014/11/29/budweiser-goes-hipster-as-sales-plunge/

    I've read other articles about how the Macro brewers are going to market to craft beer drinkers, and millennials in particular.I'm amazed that they think this can possibly help. We don't drink the beer that we do because of their marketing, they hardly do any. We drink Founders, Sierra Nevada, Stone, Etc because their product is good.Inbev Aunhouser Busch would do better to invest this money in a better beer IMO.
    Anyhow, just curious what your thoughts are, do you think this will work? does marketing at all impact the beer you drink? what do you think will really help INbev AB, if anything.
     
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  2. zxtwou2

    zxtwou2 Initiate (0) Feb 1, 2014 Illinois

    the only marketing i need is for a beer i want to actually be distributed to my area! luckily, i have a ton of excellent local options, which means way more to me than million dollar ad campaigns or someone trying to "cater" to things i love about beer. good beer is sought after....bad beer needs to be marketed.
     
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  3. Hrodebert

    Hrodebert Savant (1,024) Sep 2, 2013 Michigan
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    Marketing has put many big corporations where they are today.
    They pay millions for this stuff, and know what they are doing.
    Will it get them customers? Without a doubt.
    Will it sway serious craft beer drinkers? Not likely.
    They are not interested in making better beer.
    They are interested in making more money.
     
  4. afrokaze

    afrokaze Pooh-Bah (1,962) Jun 12, 2009 Oregon
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    I'm not sure which is more crass: Bud's new marketing plan or the tone of that article. Boiling it down to generational stereotypes does disservice to the issue.
     
  5. Vitacca

    Vitacca Pooh-Bah (2,250) Sep 15, 2010 Montana
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    Wether we enjoy BMC or not, it pays the bills for many small businesses. Their huge marketing budget keeps the lights on for many people.
     
  6. Smidge

    Smidge Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2014 California

    So do all the good small brewers.
     
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  7. hopnado

    hopnado Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Michigan

    very true but I would rather spend my money supporting american small business owners(craft brewers) and drinking superior beer. The thousands of small breweries in america are keeping a lot of lights on too they just don't need to advertise, their beer does the talking
     
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  8. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    People want to feel special in all of their consumer choices these days. Budweiser is the Wonder Bread of beer.
     
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  9. neverenoughhops

    neverenoughhops Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2009 California

    i don't drink or like budweiser, but i also disagree with this. that beer is the epitome of the style in which it sits - it pretty much cannot nor need not get better. i simply dislike that style and will never seek it out.
     
  10. floridadrift

    floridadrift Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2014 Florida

    I don't see what the issue is with an umbrella system. It may just be inevitable; a snowball effect which they kind-of started. This is in regards to the selling and distribution of beer in the United States. If it keeps going in the direction that it's headed, Budweiser and BudLite will remain alive as a product but not as billboarded as they once were. Instead, like the industry of spirits, the corporation itself will encourage what sells, the breweries will just be under an agreement with Anheuser, Miller or Coors for full-access distribution, not only nationwide but where it takes, internationally. Slices of a pie. When you have old money, it's like sitting at the top of a mountain and watching a car drive all the way up; you have a lot of time to foretell and see what's going to happen. I imagine there are a couple of marketing agents for this company, on here. We're feeding the source.
     
  11. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    It's funny how writers never mention the real reason that sales of Budweiser are down. That reason is Bud-Lite.
     
  12. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    That's a very big part of it, no doubt. And I do think the big guys have gotten it, at least up until the past few years- their customers have been making it clear their preference for Lite beers for a while now.
     
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  13. BourbonJersey

    BourbonJersey Pundit (823) Jan 18, 2014 New Jersey

    Budweiser markets a wide variety of different brands and styles (including Goose Island, just to mention the brewer of one of my favorite beers of all time, BCBS)

    Truth be told, if Budweiser made a decent IPA or Stout, I'd drink it. The vast majority of the time I don't discriminate against where the beer comes from, only the taste. If Lagunitas made an average IPA (using them as an example because they make my favorite IPA in Sucks) and Bud made a good one, I'd be giving my business to AB-InBev.

    That being said, I don't actively search out American adjunct lagers or their "lite' counterparts either.
     
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  14. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Why would AB waste time brewing beers to meet craft drinkers wants? We're a fraction, they brew to the other 95% of people who drink beer regularly or for those who dabble when out. If it was my business and my money I'd do exactly what they're doing, and if I wanted craft I'd absorb highly respected breweries like Goose Island which doesn't need advertising, we suck that up anyway. I think GI other stuff is pedestrian at best, but that's another story BCBS drove that sale.
     
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  15. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Very true. I think they are wrong also. Most "millennials" I know drink Bud, Coors or Miller Lite. That's if they drink beer at all.
     
  16. Tsar_Riga

    Tsar_Riga Grand Pooh-Bah (3,349) Sep 9, 2013 Minnesota
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    This is squarely on point for me. I drink GI, and enjoy their Belgians and BCBS quite well. I am not a huge fan of the way they distribute these beers, but I do like the beer itself.

    And if BMC produced other beers I wanted, I'd drink them, too. I've tried their crafty offerings and been unimpressed, and I am just not much of an AAL fan. Light beers are of no use to me - if I wanted to shave calories, I'd drink water.
     
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  17. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    The article is more crass. At least the Bud folks have done some homework and actually do understand who they are targeting. The author of the article is doing a partially informed rant, and a sloppy one at that.

    But that’s consistent with the "news" source that published it.
     
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  18. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    As at least one other person has already noted, we are not the target for the marketing. They already are investing huge amounts of money in what many people do consider better beer. The Budweiser marketing plan will have an impact on their target demographic, but the author of the article has mis-identified the target and so the article is a waste of time.
     
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  19. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

  20. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Most youngish mid 20's drink Bud Light just going off what I see at a few beer bars, more so than Miller Lite, and these places do offer craft up as well. A vast majority of the ladies might buy a bottle of wine and split it, perhaps a Bud Light as well, or Ultra. I would bet they sell more Corona of the other beers they sell. AB markets to mid 20's with discretionary cash, and they do a damn good job of it so good it's the new flagship brew by far. The old fogeys still drink their Bud no reason to spend money on them they already have them. Fri Happy Hour is a steady diet of Bud Light and Corona by far, then wine, then a bit of Heineken. Then there's 10 guys like me drinking craft.
     
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