Yes, Another Possible Bad Trader

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by Jose2412, Jun 20, 2012.

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  1. Jose2412

    Jose2412 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2012 Michigan

    So I set up a trade and sent my half on May 29th when I told him I would ship. I didnt hear anything back from him until June 8th when he said he would ship on the following Monday (June 11th) and the delay was due to some life events. I sent a message late last week again with nothing since. He also gave me his user name on rate beer and he seems to be very active on that website, adding 13 new reviews of beers on June 9th. He seems to log in to BA usually once a day also.

    Normally I wouldn't be too worried about a delay if someone has some extenuating circumstances, but it really grinds my gears when there is 13 new reviews after the fact. Im also glad that I didnt see the beer I sent to him reviewed.

    So should I out him? Or wait for another week?
     
  2. podunkparte

    podunkparte Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2009 Washington

    If he's a pretty active member that's hard to gauge. It would seem those guys would know better than to risk their reputation that way but who knows? I would definitely ask for more details on these life events. At this point I'd wait to label as a bad trader. Maybe money is the issue and he's waiting to get everything in order. In that case posting ratings isn't all that bad. It's free if he has them written down like a lot of BA's do. Still though, you are owed some communication and if that doesn't start to happen you can think more about outing the guy.

    Personally, I'd wait a little longer and tell him you're thinking about outing him if he doesn't at least communicate.
     
  3. BigTomZ

    BigTomZ Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Virginia

    So it has been a good week and a half since the date he promised to ship and he couldn't respond and let you know what happened. Plus it has been 3 weeks since you send your side. You would be justified in outing him. I would send an ultimatum on both sites. I'd let him know he needs to have a box out by the end of the week or be outed as a bad trader.
     
  4. Jose2412

    Jose2412 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2012 Michigan

    I have mentioned about outing him as a bad trader and told him I didnt want to do it. He did go into a bit more detail about the life events but I figured I'd just keep it out of the thread.

    There is good feedback on Ratebeer from a trade in June so that makes me even more pissed off about it.
     
  5. BigTomZ

    BigTomZ Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Virginia

    Yeah that sucks. Again, If you outed him right now you would be totally justified. He is clearly logging in but not communicating.

    If you decide on an ultimatum I would state that if you hit the 1 month mark without a package IN HAND, he's getting outed.
     
  6. Jose2412

    Jose2412 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2012 Michigan

    Do you know if Im able to add feedback on Rate Beer? I have an account but really have utilized it at all, although I do like the fact that they have a feedback system for trading.
     
  7. podunkparte

    podunkparte Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2009 Washington

    Is it possible he agreed to trade a beer he didn't actually possess yet and happened to fail to get it? Were they limited beers or fairly easy to get ones?
     
  8. Jose2412

    Jose2412 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2012 Michigan

    I'd be just fine if it was a money issue but the life events he described seemed to limit his time moreso than money. Thats why it burns me so bad that he hasn't sent a box
     
  9. Jose2412

    Jose2412 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2012 Michigan

    They were vintages BCBS and a BCBCS
     
  10. podunkparte

    podunkparte Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2009 Washington

    Hmm... well re reading everything I feel like I'd still give him a little time. I'm a pretty patient person in general though. Does he have good references here?
     
  11. BigTomZ

    BigTomZ Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Virginia

    I agree with patience, but at the same time vigilance protects the community as a whole. I'm sure he'd feel bad if someone else got burned and maybe he could have prevented it.

    I still say a firm ultimatum is in order with a firm deadline, no BS. If he kept the OP updated throughout then maybe a bit more patience might be in order (within reason of course).
     
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  12. Jose2412

    Jose2412 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2012 Michigan

    Didn't get references on here but the feedback on RB is all positive for 130some trades with only one neutral rating. And he's been a member here since 2007. Think I should contact one of the RB references and just confirm its the same person? People use the first name he gave me in their reviews.
     
  13. tewaris

    tewaris Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Minnesota

    Well then you've pretty much outed him out; hopefully he will see this and respond.
     
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  14. Jnorton00

    Jnorton00 Maven (1,338) Apr 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    Out the bastard!
     
  15. ChefBergo

    ChefBergo Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2011 Illinois

    I'd give him a set date to send the box and if he can't meet it then out him. Three weeks since you sent your side seems a bit a of stretch not to get anything back.
     
  16. cosmo4u

    cosmo4u Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2010 New York
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    Dude??? really
     
  17. ASUBeer

    ASUBeer Initiate (0) Nov 4, 2011 North Carolina

    I traded with him and had a less than stellar experience (communication, shipping time frame, content of box) but I did eventually get a box. I sent you a BM with the details.
     
  18. Pittsky

    Pittsky Initiate (0) May 28, 2009 Florida

    Off with his head! I mean, out him!
     
  19. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    Ok that's two people with issues...it's outting time. Save other people from going through this.
     
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  20. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    I'm not sure if people are doing this on purpose, but I like the way people are outing troublesome trading partners (start a thread, have the name in their profile as 'in progress', allow someone else to post the name).
     
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