IPA and Barrel-Aged Stout Bias

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by KingCobra686, Dec 7, 2014.

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  1. KingCobra686

    KingCobra686 Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Connecticut

    There may not be an answer to this question, but why does Beeradvocate seem to be heavily biased towards double IPA's and barrel aged stouts? If you look through the top 250, its not hard to notice that most of the top beers are one of those two, with occasional exceptions.

    I love hoppy beers and stouts, but I also love hefeweizens and golden lagers and plenty of other styles that never seem to have a chance at breaking the top spots. Is this a recent trend, or has the craft beer industry always been biased towards those two styles?
     
  2. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    about as rational as fashion trends
     
  3. Beef_Curtains

    Beef_Curtains Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2013 Ohio

    I wouldn't call it bias, those are just the popular styles among BAs. You can't change the opinions of the masses, but the website does allow you to view ratings rankings for individual styles, including the less popular ones.
     
  4. CTbrew32

    CTbrew32 Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2013 Rhode Island

    1. Is that busby??

    2. recent trend
     
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  5. Danny1217

    Danny1217 Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2011 Florida

    Those are the styles with big flavors that easily capture people's attention. Also, lambics and american wild ales are up there because they have some big and distinct flavors.
     
  6. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    American phenomena: bigger must me better.:astonished:

    OR--hard to get must be better.

    B.S. That is the one list I ignore above all others.
     
  7. superspak

    superspak Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,927) May 5, 2010 North Carolina
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    A common reappearing question. Highly flavorful beers always get all the high reviews because partially because of hype and also because of overall complexity of the styles. I still think half the problem is the "had" ticks being regarded as relevant opinions in the overall score. Big hype beers ----> 5 ticks x100. Then on the other side of the spectrum you have people ticking off 2's and 3's on my favorite kolsch's and helles style beers because they are just writing them off as some bland uninteresting beer, even if they are pinpoint examples of said styles.

    I wouldn't get all worked up in the ratings personally, I've purchased countless lower rated beers that have been great. And on the other side of the coin, I've had numerous 4.5+ hype beers that don't meet those expectations. Just enjoy everything you like, who cares what everyone else thinks :slight_smile:
     
  8. hopnado

    hopnado Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Michigan

    ...and why does Justin beiber sell more albums than slipknot??...I just don't get it
     
  9. KingCobra686

    KingCobra686 Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Connecticut

    I guess those two are probably at the top of the spectrum in flavor intensity, which might make sense why they trend to higher ratings. A double IPA with distinct hop profile will probably always be more newsworthy than a pale ale with the same hops.

    I agree about the top 250 list. I like looking through it, but I do not consider it an end all list. I was just curious if there was any rational reason why IPAs and BA stouts have such a dominating presence on it.
     
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  10. markdrinksbeer

    markdrinksbeer Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    For the same reason a hot fudge sundae with whip cream, sprinkles and a cherry outsells a bowl of plain vanilla ice cream.
     
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  11. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    I'd still take a bowl of both those Ice Creams instead of a can of Heady Topper...:rolling_eyes:
     
  12. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I love a great Pils as much as anyone, but even the best examples of style wouldn't drive me to start a thread on it. I'm one of those wowed by great dipas and BA Stouts, maybe because there is so much that's mediocre that when you find a great one it's noteworthy. Big flavor profiles aren't going away any time soon I believe.
     
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  13. Scarfer_Brad

    Scarfer_Brad Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2014 Florida
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    I love a good Heffe and a Kölsch too but the flavors of Stouts and IPAs are just more out there..... That being said, the best beer I have had this year was neither, it was Hill Farmstead Art.... Now that is a wow beer
     
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  14. deadliest

    deadliest Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2009 Texas

    IIPA's and Imp Stouts are the easiest styles to understand. Probably put fruited sours in that category, too.
     
  15. bheerman

    bheerman Devotee (332) Jun 10, 2005 Pennsylvania

    While I don't agree with it, I think it has to do with the wow factor. A well made IPA or stout has bigger and bolder flavors and it makes more of an impression on the drinker. There have been countless times I've read a review of a great pilsner or hefeweizen that had nothing but positive things to say about the beer, but for some reason the overall rating for the beer ends up around 3.5. Is a 4 the ceiling for these styles?
     
  16. EricTKole

    EricTKole Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2014 Michigan

    I spy with my little eyes.......quite a few Belgians in the top 250.
     
  17. cookiequiz

    cookiequiz Savant (1,119) Apr 15, 2013 California

    Bigger flavours are more exciting.

    Don't confuse hype with quality.
     
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  18. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Perceived complexity.
     
  19. SFNC

    SFNC Savant (1,211) Apr 7, 2013 North Carolina

    I think scarcity drives the Top 250 as much as quality.
     
  20. BeerDrinkersWorldTour

    BeerDrinkersWorldTour Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2014 Northern Ireland

    Could also be a regional issue... I think the majority of BAs on here are from the USA. The styles mentioned above are very popular in the US or at least seem to be based on what I read here on the site.

    Hence if most BAs are from the US and those styles are popular there than it stand to reason that those styles will dominate the reviews.
    Now this is just a theory based on my humble observations... but I do know that a lot of the UK BAs tend to think this as well so like @surfcaster I and others tend to by pass that list.

    Final though on the matter from me... It would be interesting to put this theory to the test and have regional top whatever lists so we could compare European leanings to American, Asian etc etc...
     
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