Beer "categories"?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by valianes, Dec 14, 2014.

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  1. valianes

    valianes Pundit (805) Mar 27, 2010 Canada (ON)

    Hey everyone!

    I'm currently in the process of re-organizing my beer menu. Right now it's a 4 page list in alphebetical order based on brewery and that's kind of a tough thing to navigate for people who aren't experts.

    I want to re-organize it into some sort of categorical system. One page for each subsection of beer, therefore creating 4 categories.

    I don't want to categorize it purely based on style. I'd rather do it based on descriptive words... things like "RICH" or "REFRESHING" or "DARK". But I can't quite figure out a system that could generalize beer into 4 overarching categories.

    Any thoughts on what words I could use? Or maybe a better way of organizing the menu?
     
  2. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    How about "Premium", "Domestic" and "Imported" :grinning:

    Seriously, what kind of establishment & clientele do you have?
     
  3. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    The only four I can come with is.

    Hop forward
    Malt Forward
    Yeast dominant
    sours and flavored beers

    I would be shocked though if they are anywhere near equal in numbers for a nice 4 page list.
     
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  4. John_Beeryman

    John_Beeryman Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2014 Virginia

    Basically, don't do what you have planned. It will force too great generalisations. Have more than section per page. Organize first by style, then by country. Put lighter styles first.
     
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  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    I always found it interesting how Michael Jackson organized his book Ultimate Beer (aka "Beer" in the UK). Click on the link and then on Amazon's LOOK INSIDE feature, and see page 5, CONTENTS -Seasonal Beers, Sociable Beers, Party Greeters, Thirst Quenchers, Restoratives, Winter Warmers, Nightcaps & Aperitifs.
     
  6. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Why don't you want to do it by styles? Anyway do it by the food you serve, best with steak, best with fish, ect.
     
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  7. BeerDrinkersWorldTour

    BeerDrinkersWorldTour Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2014 Northern Ireland

    Do it Geographical. USA, Domestic (for you CANADA), European etc etc... seems like that will be a safe bet and cover the educated and novice alike...
     
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  8. BeerDrinkersWorldTour

    BeerDrinkersWorldTour Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2014 Northern Ireland

    If it is good enough for the wine stores....
     
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  9. DrumKid003

    DrumKid003 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Oklahoma

    Just organize them by alphabetically by country, then by brewery, then the beers themselves. Or organize them by style and list them alphabetically according to the brewery.
     
  10. MisSigsFan

    MisSigsFan Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 California

    Hoppy, Dark, Malty?
     
  11. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    Ugh... I really dislike places that do wine or beer like this.


    If you are set on dividing into 4, then I would divide it into Hop Forward, Malt Forward, Balanced, Other (sours, fruit, etc)
    Then I would list under these in order of Style (generally lighter first), then Brewery (also list the country)
     
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  12. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Light Hoppy
    Hoppy
    Dark Malty
    Dark & Roasty
    All Others for an optional 5th header for a catch-all that is organized by styles
     
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  13. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    Go with what your anticipated patrons will likely understand most. You have got to play to your clientele. A beer list for this crowd would likely be different than those for an average restaurant crowd. In addition, a format that is inexpensive and easy to change if you plan a lot of rotation. ACCURATE and UPDATED are a must if looking to cater to a real knowledgeable crowd.

    I just hate it when I spot that gem and am told it kicked two days ago :angry:.

    Canadian
    American Micro
    American Macro (if you serve that)
    European
     
  14. KansasBeerLover

    KansasBeerLover Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2009 Kansas

    How about asking some of your regular clientèle for input?
     
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  15. Matt_Rodgers

    Matt_Rodgers Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2013 Washington

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  16. Beef_Curtains

    Beef_Curtains Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2013 Ohio

    I think style is the best way to organize a beer menu
    and you can put more than one category per page which would give you more options
     
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  17. Mitchell57

    Mitchell57 Zealot (626) Jan 8, 2013 Wisconsin

    I think the best places just do it by brewery or style. I'm being a little vague, but reds/ambers, browns/scotch ales, apas/ips/dipas, porters/stouts, sours/fruit, imports/Belgians, other. Something like that
     
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  18. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    Most of (if not all of) the chain of restaurants in the group do it like this. I do like the idea, but it may leave some room for interpretation, and not for all places. Combining the Hopppy/Malt Forward etc. concept with something along the lines of color I think is a happy medium. I tend to expect different things from a malt forward paler beer and a malt forward dark beer. Unfortunately, that'd likely leave you with more than 4 categories.
     
  19. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    style is good, but you can get creative with it. for example you could break down IPA's into; Fruity,balanced, And Hop Bomb (i wouldn't think using the word "bitter is a great idea) . With stouts you could do; Sweet and Roasty, etc.
     
  20. MisterGone

    MisterGone Initiate (0) Jul 23, 2014 California

    This seems reasonable, and it doesn't seem vague when trying to limit the categories.

    When your clientele ask questions, how are they framed? Do they ask based on color? dominant profile? drinkability? region? If there is a pattern you can think of, you can organize it that way. Then couple that with your staff knowledge base. Are they adept at description? Do they know what a customer wants when they ask in vague descriptions like thick?
     
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