Jailbreak Brewing (MD) outrageous pricing.

Discussion in 'New England' started by wd09601, Oct 10, 2014.

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  1. imbrue002

    imbrue002 Initiate (0) Oct 10, 2014 Maryland

    Nice math but this beer is not in the same class as any of those. In fact, it's no better than Dirt Wolf. The ratings from both sites confirm this comparison is not even close. But ok, just for the sake of argument, well put it on par with Dirt Wolf. Mmm yeah, that beer is 7.99 a 4-pack. So that's a $3 difference, not a penny. Basically if you are cool with paying the 25% up-charge (best case scenario) then by all means, this beer is for you.
     
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  2. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

    I've never seen Dirt Wolf for less than $10/4-pack, in other words, same price per oz. as a sixer of Big Punisher.
     
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  3. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    You need to come to DE. Local TW has Dirt Wolf for 7.99 then with the usual coupon it comes to 6.99 and no tax.
     
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  4. justinbonner

    justinbonner Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2013 Maryland

    Not as a defensive response on my part but more or less a summary of pricing as it relates to the small guys. The price of beer on a microeconomic level is often tied to brewery's costs. The largest cost for a brewery is overhead (i.e. salaries, rent, utilities, etc). Using Jailbreak as an example, we have a 20bbl brewhouse and are brewing at about a 2500-3000bbl pace per year. While we have additional fermentors on order that will increase capacity, it would still require the same space and manpower to brew 1000bbls as it would 5000bbls. Let's say we're brewing 1000bbls per year, the cost per barrel would be similar to the cost for 5000bbls outside of ingredient costs which are a fractional cost of the overall beer. In the world of beer, volume is imperative in order to get to profitability. The more beer you make, the less it costs and the less you need to charge for that beer. Hell, at our volume, we sell the beer for less than what it costs us to make it.

    With that said, you as a consumer should make the very best decisions with your dollars as you work hard to make the money you spend. Buying local has a number of benefits including the ability to buy the very freshest beer possible. It also supports folks who are employing people who might be your neighbor, brother, baby's daddy, etc. But also consider this, local breweries also pump a ton of product and money into local charitable organizations and other locally supportive organizations. Sierra Nevada isn't helping our local community just as we're not helping their community. Drinking local is more than a prideful expression, it's about making all of our worlds a bit smaller and a bit more personal.

    With all that said, you still need to demand the very highest of quality from your local businesses....breweries or otherwise. They owe it to you just as much if not more than you owe it to them. We love our local brewers and as for me personally, nine of every ten beers I drink are from local breweries and they more often than not aren't my beers. I can drink mine all day long but in the market, I feel it important to support those local breweries making products I believe in.

    So yes, smaller breweries charge more early on and most of those that grow end up lowering prices as their volume grows. These are the guys that are supporting their local restaurants, liquor stores, grocery stores, farmers, schools, social organizations, hospitals, police and fire, military, etc. These guys make good beer and I'll keep buying. Make a shit product...I'll continue to demand more from them. While public forums aren't typically the mediums I use to provide such suggestions......to each his own. Thanks for allowing me my rant all!
     
  5. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    Just need to chime in: $15 for a 6/pk sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

    I haven't had this beer, so I can't speak to the quality - but if this beer is any good, I'd be happy to pay that much for it.

    JUST BE HAPPY THEY DIDN'T PUT IT IN BOMBERS AND CHARGE BOMBER PRICES
     
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  6. markgugs

    markgugs Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New Jersey

    hope to try both canned offerings by this weekend as my buddy is bringing some up from Baltimore
     
  7. jjboesen

    jjboesen Pooh-Bah (2,054) Feb 1, 2002 Maryland
    Pooh-Bah

    The fault is not with the brewer, but with the outrageous taxation policies of the People's Republic of Maryland.
     
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  8. tobelerone

    tobelerone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,220) Dec 1, 2010 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    If you're referencing Lawson's double sunshine that comes in bombers that are 10-12/each, can't exactly recall. Worth every penny though, not many hoppy beers come close to that level.
     
  9. southdenverhoo

    southdenverhoo Pooh-Bah (1,567) Aug 13, 2004 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah

    I think I was actually thinking about Heady Topper to be honest. Can't get either of them here and may have mixed them up. It's Heady that comes in 16 oz cans, right? are they in 4 or 6 packs or just singles?
     
  10. tobelerone

    tobelerone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,220) Dec 1, 2010 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Heady comes in four packs of tallboys, iirc 13 per (although they may have raised it to 14
    In the last year).
     
  11. nightfly

    nightfly Initiate (0) Feb 11, 2010 District of Columbia

    Does it have the canning date printed on it?
     
  12. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    Nobody is forcing you to buy it.
     
  13. danbar

    danbar Initiate (0) Dec 31, 2005 Maryland
    Trader

    True but I think that is missing the point, which is he wants to support a local brewery but is having a hard time justifying the premium in price. Hence the 31 messages prior.
     
  14. MosaicDrops

    MosaicDrops Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2014 New York

    Just had Carrot Cake Conspiracy on draft in Frederick. It was listed as a Stout but certainly didn't look like one. A tad sweet, but I would definitely drink it again.
     
  15. nightfly

    nightfly Initiate (0) Feb 11, 2010 District of Columbia

    Actually, Barmy's on L Street forced me to buy some Drie Fonteinen Oude Geuze
    yesterday. It felt involuntary in nature.
     
  16. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    life's rough :wink:
     
  17. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    15 dollars...

    that's like 3 five dollar foot longs at subway... actually not even...

    or you could just buy other local beers that cost less or something else.

    Honestly don't know what to say...
     
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  18. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Pooh-Bah (2,691) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
    Pooh-Bah

    The Welcome to Scoville is tasting really good right now.
     
  19. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I agree, and how likely is it that Jailhouse Brewing comes even close to that quality?
     
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  20. jimmy666

    jimmy666 Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2010 Maryland

    For one it is Jailbreak brewing and two personal taste is subjective. Way to be snooty guy :wink:
     
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