Bad trader @BDavidson14

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by Cuzco, Dec 28, 2014.

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  1. Cuzco

    Cuzco Zealot (634) Mar 22, 2008 New York
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    I have been running FF leagues for years and have not had an experience like this.
    I just sent out the final results and targets.
    I sent a separate message to a league member confirming his team since it used a different email. Instead of a reply he removed himself permanently from both messages.
    Is this grounds for immediate bad trader?
     
    #1 Cuzco, Dec 28, 2014
  2. mps

    mps Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 Ohio

    I would send a follow up message asking why it was deleted and confirming they will ship before you post a bad trader thread.
     
    #2 mps, Dec 28, 2014
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  3. Abbbp

    Abbbp Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 9, 2013 Texas
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    also do you have his contact info? Possibly texting him or directly emailing him-
     
    #3 Abbbp, Dec 28, 2014
  4. dmbforever

    dmbforever Initiate (0) May 8, 2013 Wisconsin
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    Do you have the member(s) phone numbers as another way of contacting them via text or phone call. Im assuming not, but just had to ask the obvious. If not, contact one of their last trading partners (also assuming they have trade feedback) to see if they have a number to contact the member. I'm giving the other member the benefit of the doubt and use all my options before "outing" prematurely.
     
    #4 dmbforever, Dec 28, 2014
  5. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Are you talking about removing himself from group beer mails on here ? Probably didnt want to get all the email notifications that come with every response. BM directly and wait for response before you decide you have a bad trader.
     
    #5 jrnyc, Dec 28, 2014
  6. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas

    Maybe I'm misreading the original post, but I think he said he sent the guy an individual message, which he also removed himself from. So yeah, that would definitely concern me.

    I'd suggest sending him 1 more message, and if he responds the same way, or doesn't respond, then it's time to name names.
     
    #6 kmello69, Dec 28, 2014
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  7. Cuzco

    Cuzco Zealot (634) Mar 22, 2008 New York
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    Yeah I sent an individual message as well. Now he is claiming that he never got a box in the first round of the bif an I ignored his request for help. I went back though everything and have no message from him about this issue here, on FB or in the league pages. He never mentioned it in the thread either. I actually know him personally and always thought highly of him not so sure about that now based on his actions the past 24 hours.
     
    #7 Cuzco, Dec 28, 2014
  8. dmbforever

    dmbforever Initiate (0) May 8, 2013 Wisconsin
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    @Cuzco Sounds to me with what's been said in the thread, that he's "dodging" his responsibilities and making up excuses/lies. If you don't out him, please send me their username so I can add to my DTL. Thanks in advance.
     
    #8 dmbforever, Dec 28, 2014
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  9. VegasHopHead

    VegasHopHead Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2012 Nevada

    The fact that you know him personally makes this even more strange.
     
    #9 VegasHopHead, Dec 29, 2014
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  10. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    @Cuzco will you privately message me his name as well? We run in similar circles and I'd like to know and will offer to help where possible to make everyone right.
     
    #10 PA-Michigander, Dec 29, 2014
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  11. ms11781

    ms11781 Initiate (0) Jul 20, 2008 Massachusetts
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    If he was in a FF BIF and never got a box why on earth would he sign up to play in the league the following year?
     
    #11 ms11781, Dec 29, 2014
  12. bcm75

    bcm75 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2013 Illinois

    I think cuzco is referring to the boxes we sent out in the preseason this year, not last year's boxes.
     
    #12 bcm75, Dec 29, 2014
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  13. ms11781

    ms11781 Initiate (0) Jul 20, 2008 Massachusetts
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    This makes way more sense. Haven't participated in a league that does this so I was completely baffled as to why someone would do that.
     
    #13 ms11781, Dec 29, 2014
  14. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    I've never understood how these BIF things work and this thread only confuses me more
     
    #14 evilcatfish, Dec 29, 2014
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  15. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Even if you didn't help, which sounds like his claim of this is false, he is refusing to send his owed box to someone else? If this is the case, you need to out him here.
     
    #15 jrnyc, Dec 29, 2014
  16. Cuzco

    Cuzco Zealot (634) Mar 22, 2008 New York
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    Here is a bit of an update from Facebook Conversation: His responses are in italics.... Have not heard anything since Sunday.

    Saturday 10:58pm
    What's up with the removing yourself from my BA messages?


    Sunday 4:43am

    You didn't reply when I asked for help, I sent my target a great bocx, got none, at that time I said, okay, I got shit on I will let it go.

    I did
    Sunday 7:50am
    I dont have anything about you not getting anything. Even in the message I sent you the last one was of you giving me the tracking number. Where/when did you ask for help?

    Sunday 2:37pm

    I asked for help in a message to you, because I was new and couldn't figure it out. Didn't hear from you, tried to figure it out myself, then I didn't get a box, decided it likely would all be another waste to try and straighten out,, decided trying to get it together with a group like that not worth it, and trying to talk about it now also not worth it, hence ended conv. and this post will also be last thought I spend on this.

    Sunday 2:39
    In a message on what? I went back and checked everything and have nothing from you. You can ask everyone that has been in a league with me that I have never ignored a box not being shipped nor let someone slide. I have hounded people the entire season about boxes. I had no idea that you didn't get a box until now. Do you really think that little of me that I would just ignore your request for help on the box?
     
    #16 Cuzco, Dec 31, 2014
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  17. Cuzco

    Cuzco Zealot (634) Mar 22, 2008 New York
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    Even in the league he was in there were two other members that received a boxes after the deadline and they were in contact with me an it was sorted out within a matter of a week (maybe two).
     
    #17 Cuzco, Dec 31, 2014
  18. mps

    mps Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 Ohio

    Time to out this guy
     
    #18 mps, Dec 31, 2014
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  19. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Pooh-Bah (2,116) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
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    Agreed...
     
    #19 Kramerbarthomer, Dec 31, 2014
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  20. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    So this guy didnt get a box and now is deciding because he claims that since you didn't help him he is not sending a box to the person he owes it to? This guy needs to be tagged and outed in this thread ASAP.
     
    #20 jrnyc, Dec 31, 2014
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