1997 Samichlaus - Any good?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by MJenniferC, Jan 2, 2015.

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  1. MJenniferC

    MJenniferC Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2015 New York

    Many years ago I purchased the man who would eventually become my husband 4 Samichlaus biers.
    I have no idea how it happened, but it turns out that one of those bottles ended up in my grandmother refrigerator up until today when we found it buried behind multiple types of condiments. Can anyone tell me if this would still be any good? I know it was supposed to get better with age.... But this old?
     
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  2. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    This is one of those beers that people really enjoy aging. Perhaps someone who's had this beer with that much age on it can chime in. Even if the odds are against it being in nice shape, stranger things have happened. Don't even consider automatically tossing it. Has your grandmother not cleaned her fridge in that long? :wink:
     
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  3. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    "The way to a man's heart is through his stomach."
     
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  4. Kerrie

    Kerrie Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2012 Michigan

    I'd say it's worth a shot. As long as it doesn't look or smell questionable once poured, take a sip. If the sip sucks, dump it. Shouldn't make anyone actually sick either way. Just have a palate cleanser on hand, I guess.
     
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  5. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Heck you have it so try it. If it sucks drain pour it. Sure beats putting it on the shelf.

    Awhile ago had a very old beer that I would never have a chance to try so we cracked it. Ended up being terrible but at the end of day I can say I tried it.
     
  6. DrDemento456

    DrDemento456 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,439) May 15, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It should kick ass. I don't see how this beer wouldn't hold up it's a 14% beast of a beer. I mean unless you left it in the hot Arizona sun (best example I could come up with) I wouldn't see it going bad.
     
  7. pitweasel

    pitweasel Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2007 New York

    The fact that it's been in the fridge, and not a cellar, should actually work in your favor here. The colder it's been stored, the slower changes will take place. So it's not as though it's been "cellaring" for 18 years, as my guess would be that the beer is probably past its prime at that point.

    But as someone else has already mentioned, there's only one way to find out. If you love it: buy more and put them in your fridge for another 20 years. If you hate it: you don't have to wonder anymore.

    I'd definitely have some toothpaste or mouthwash handy, though.
     
  8. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Pooh-Bah (2,691) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
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    I know that my friend has some going back at least that far with possibly some from the late 80's. Definitely, not bad, but will be interesting when we open them. Wait for 2017 and you will have a beer that is 2 decades old.
     
  9. MJenniferC

    MJenniferC Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2015 New York


    Other than the occasional Guinness, she is not much of a beer drinker. I think she was just ignoring it.
     
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  10. youradhere

    youradhere Initiate (0) Feb 29, 2008 Washington

    You will be fine drinking it. I would crack it open this weekend with some pulled pork (sandwich or on baked potato). Or have it as a desert with something sweet and non-chocolate, like a cheesecake or creme brûlée.

    Here is what I would do: once the bottle is open, leave it on the counter to warm up after your first glasses, and for your pour I wouldn't fill your glass full, if in a pint glass fill halfway, same for other glasses. This will not only keep the beer from seeming like too much initially ("man this is sweet, holy crap I have to drink a whole pint of this???" vs. "this is sweet and I won't be drinking fast, I don't have much in my glass" mentality.)

    Here is the key part: if it tastes good to you then drink up! If not, then pour it down the drain and open a nice semillon to drink with your cheesecake. :slight_smile:
     
  11. RDMII

    RDMII Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    Absolutely open it. It will be incredible.
     
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  12. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    It is going to be awesome! Report back.
     
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  13. swoopdog

    swoopdog Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2012 Arkansas

    This beer cellared tastes like a fine cognac. Should be freaking excellent...Let us know!
     
  14. LuskusDelph

    LuskusDelph Initiate (0) May 1, 2008 New Jersey

    FWIW, a few years ago I opened a 1989 bottle of Samichlaus.
    It was, in a word, incredible.
     
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  15. allforbetterbeer

    allforbetterbeer Savant (1,236) Sep 26, 2009 Colorado

    Beer of that strength can't "spoil". There is no way it could make you sick, in fact a 1997 bottle of water would be more risky to drink. I would guess that it will taste wonderful, as that particular beer is known for getting better beyond the 10 year mark. There are beers of similar strength that can age for 50+ years and still be tasty.
     
  16. Sludgeman

    Sludgeman Grand Pooh-Bah (3,356) Aug 17, 2012 District of Columbia
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    Did you save the 1995 Grey Poupon. I here it is exquisite!

    BTW, had my first Samichlaus just yesterday. A 2013. It was sweet, but still a beer I would drink again. I thought to myself how wonderful this beer might taste with some age. I look forward to finding some more for the cellar and hearing how your discovery tastes.
     
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  17. LuskusDelph

    LuskusDelph Initiate (0) May 1, 2008 New Jersey

    True.
    I've enjoyed a couple bottles of Ballantine Burton Ale, brewed in 1946 and bottled in 1960 and '66, respectively. Granted, having had them more than 40 years after they were bottled (and 60 years after they were brewed) , they were certainly faded with regard to the very high level of hop bitterness and aroma they had (even by today's standards) but they were nonetheless luscious tasting, with remarkable malty character (but not sweet), a definite hint of wood, and (incredibly) virtually no oxidation.
    I still have 5 full bottles that I will probably sell or trade this year (though I haven't ruled out drinking one more of them:slight_smile:).
     
  18. MJenniferC

    MJenniferC Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2015 New York

    Thank you everyone for your thoughts about trying this relic from the back of my 94 year old Grandmothers fridge.. I have a co-worker who has shown interest in drinking this bottle and letting me know what he thinks of it. He has had other aged Samichlaus though never as old as this one. I will report back his review as to whether it got better with age or if Lysterine was necessary.

    I am afraid that it would be waisted on me as I am more of a Smuttynose and Arrogant Bastard kind of girl.
     
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  19. Sludgeman

    Sludgeman Grand Pooh-Bah (3,356) Aug 17, 2012 District of Columbia
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    Would love to hear how it tasted?
     
  20. supramkivtt2jz

    supramkivtt2jz Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2014 Alabama

    It ages incredibly well. I had a 1996 that was absolutely astounding.
     
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