Using the Word "Try" at a Bar

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  1. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    The problem is that "sample" and "taster" are also used as terms describing small glassware. So you asked for a "sample" but you were given a "sample glass" sized pour. Typically I check the board for pour size costs or I ask the bartender "what size pours do you sell" when visiting a new bar to avoid this potential problem. If either one indicates they have 3-5oz "samplers" or "tasters" then I can infer that it's the kind of bar that generally doesn't give tiny free sample sips and that if I ask for a "sample" or "taster" I will be given a 3-5oz pour for the price listed on the menu / quoted by the bartender.

    http://www.truebeer.com/Taster-Glasses_c_93.html
     
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  2. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Which is why yesterday really irritated me because I had been operating that way for months now and then this guy comes along and gives me a reason to start this thread. My boss even pointed at the few ounces of Cackalacky in the pint glass at one point and was like "What's up with that?" and I said "I misinterpreted his saying 'try' for asking for a full pour rather than a taster." And, even after the guy heard me say that to him, he goes "Lemme try the French Toast stout" and I was like "You mean a taster?" and he says "Yeah." :angry:
     
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  3. Ale_Dog

    Ale_Dog Initiate (0) May 13, 2014 New York

    While you may not get the full essence from a 3 oz taste, can definitely weed out something you don't like.
    I used to ask "can I try" for a taste and state "I will try" for a full. After this post, I will be more specific.
    Would love to know from OP or bartenders if there is a max on tastes. I usaully only will ask for two max, otherwise seems like it's a bother.
     
  4. gonzo000

    gonzo000 Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2014 Massachusetts

    This is simple, you want a sample. Try is too ambiguous - which is why you are getting mixed results.
     
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  5. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    While I don't agree with your perspective because I feel it's a two-way street and you should view yourself as a guest in someone else's domain even though you are a paying customer, at least you say "I'll have" or "I'd like" rather than "I want." Once again, just a pet peeve that doesn't really matter at the end of the day but it just irks me.
     
  6. 1eyed_jack

    1eyed_jack Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2012 Illinois

    I don't ever assume it's fine to just sample something, so if I'm asking about a sample I always make sure to phrase it as a legit question.
     
  7. Hrodebert

    Hrodebert Savant (1,024) Sep 2, 2013 Michigan
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    I always try to find new beers that I will like.
    I sometimes ask for a taste of something if it is new to me.
    I will eventually have a serving of something if I think I will enjoy it.
     
  8. gQQgsJr

    gQQgsJr Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I'm guilty of using "try" when ordering a beer. I always mean full pour but the advantage is that if I receive a taster it's not a big deal. I pretend that that's what I meant and sometimes I get a few ounces for free.
     
  9. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Mildly off-topic. I used to tend bar at a local place. There was this local teacher, and she would come in after school and correct her students work, while having a couple pints. She only drank IPAs, but would sample every new thing we got on tap. She'd ask for a taste of a Tripel, and I'd say "Dana, you don't like those yeasts, why bother?" or "you know you hate the roast in the stouts". And every time, she'd shake her head and say "ugh no, I don't like that, what new IPA do you have?" LOLz. I still see her around town and we chat, and she's always drinking an IPA!
     
  10. kdb150

    kdb150 Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2012 Pennsylvania

    When I'm ordering a beer I've never had before, I'll usually order it by saying "try," meaning to order a full pour. This usually results in getting a full pour. Occasionally the barkeep will ask if I am ordering a full pour or a sample, at which point I'll ask for a sample. Sometimes I'll be given a sample no questions asked. This actually saved me last weekend, when I meant to order a full pour bit was given a sample. The beer sucked, so I was very happy not to have gotten a full glass of it.

    I guess I should be less ambiguous about it, but meh. I usually say it without thinking, then realize after the barkeep has started doing his thing that I wasn't clear on what I wanted. I will always say sample if I want a sample, but typically only do that in bars I don't trust not to have crappy beer. But it's not like I suffer for getting a taster, so it's not like I mind.
     
  11. Sponan

    Sponan Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2008 Tennessee

    I don't think you should be modeling your customer service skills after the Toronado.
     
  12. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Yeah, really just looking to vent and get feedback more than anything. I feel better already :slight_smile:
     
  13. Ale_Dog

    Ale_Dog Initiate (0) May 13, 2014 New York

    That's finding the silver lining gQ!
     
  14. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    If I've ever had a bad experience at Ave, strike me down.
     
  15. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Bingo. Two's the max where I work. When I worked at places that didn't care, upon giving the third taste I would say "Ya know, we do flights," and they'd usually get the hint. I hate giving away too much for free based on principle alone, regardless of whatever establishment I'm working for's policy.
     
  16. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Wow, then you're one of the lucky ones who's never met Eddy. That guy's a HUGE dick. Everyone else there's pretty cool though, especially Polly of course.
     
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  17. pinkgrenade

    pinkgrenade Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2011 California

    its up to the bartender to clarify what "try" means each time because unfortunately we can't rely on other people to convey in a clear and concise manner what they actually want. if anyone says "try" i ask "a taster or a full pour" because it goes both ways unfortunately and its my job to make sure the customer gets what they want in the end

    but if you say "try" and you get a full pour i think you should take the super hard responsibility of drinking that full pour and hopefully you learn a little lesson: be more clear!
     
  18. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Point taken. I've heard those guys can be rude but, if I feel comfortable with the person (i.e. if they're a male close to my age), a little joke doesn't hurt.
     
  19. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    I don't know; I can't complain about a place where I can get Pappy Rye, Cantillon, burgers, and Jager all at once, and that's open 24hours.
     
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  20. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Even if you're treated rudely? Also, thank God they wised up and banned smoking downstairs because, as a non-smoker, I certainly had a lot to complain about if I was there before 5 when the upstairs is closed and I was forced to inhale second-hand smoke while trying to enjoy world class beers. It's a fantastic bar but even the best bars in the world will always have things they need to work on.
     
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