Fans of under-appreciated styles ...

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by mattosgood, Jan 26, 2015.

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  1. mattosgood

    mattosgood Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2014 Massachusetts

    (That was the best title I could come up with)

    Anyway, I feel like BA has become IPA/Double IPA/Barrel-aged Advocate. This is okay. I like these styles of beer, quite a bit actually, and I like talking about them. But my slight gripe is that it seems like these are the only beers we talk about. I read about people lining up for releases of triple dry hopped IPA's at 5:30 in the morning and barrel-aged releases. My discussion point is this: How often do most BA's vary from these two styles? It seems to me that big stouts and IPA's would be the favorites here (and it was sours last year, saisons the year before that). Again, this is okay, it just makes me curious. Do most people ONLY like these styles?

    What about the other styles? If a brewery released a porter, why wouldn't there be lines before dawn especially if it's a great brewery? What about an old ale? Why not?

    Trust me, I love that I can waltz in to most places and have my pick of barleywines or porters or milk stouts. I just wonder why it seems the only clamoring is about IPA's and 12% stouts that are released only on the solstice between the hours of 1-2:42 am.
     
  2. Uniobrew31

    Uniobrew31 Pooh-Bah (1,567) Jan 16, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Because they are only released on the solstice between 1 and 2:42 am:wink:
    I am with you though, at some level I think we are a bit DIPA and BBA crazy these days. Not my favorite styles but I did drive, to be honest I was out of town anyway, but I did stop and pick up a case each of Paulaner Octoberfest weisn' and Hoffbrau Oktoberfest about three hours from home this year because they weren't distributed locally. I would wait in line for that. Hows that for advocacy of under appreciated styles!
     
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  3. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    It is all supply and demand. The constant talk on here helps that demand. Supply is limited for the barrel aged and truly expensive/hard to make beers. Some breweries are lucky enough to have differentiated there product from similar products to make their beers rare also. Kudo's to those that have done this.
     
  4. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    I love BSDAs, yet when I see a fresh IPA/DIPA on the shelf, I'm going to gravitate for that (hoppy beers don't age well, yet BSDA age great). This reminds me, I'm now going to research more Malt Liquor brands. I used to buy a lot of those back in my day and I should fall back to my roots. Most of them are quite good, yet not the most popular style according to BA scores.
     
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  5. Sludgeman

    Sludgeman Grand Pooh-Bah (3,356) Aug 17, 2012 District of Columbia
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    I just wish the brewers would make more varieties of those "under-appreciated styles" I like. :slight_frown: Catch-22 I suppose.
     
  6. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    the reason IPAs/DIPAS/BA'd anything are so talked about are 3 fold
    (A) Always a new trendy Hops and hop combinations.
    (B) Whats old is new again, putting beers in used barrels is just a new way to get flavor.
    (C) Other styles are consumed but deemed "unexciting" doesn't mean people do not consume them and enjoy them.
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Below is something I posted recently in another thread which was discussing the prevalence of IPA/DIPA beer styles:

    Some ‘signs’ that I have seen locally and recently:

    · Sierra Nevada Nooner Pilsner: a new year round beer

    · Yuengling Summer Wheat: a summer seasonal introduced in 2014. The first ‘real’ craft beer from Yuengling which is a large regional brewery

    · Straub Helles: part of a recent variety pack

    · Straub Groundhog Altbier: a January/February seasonal release (I drank a 6-pack of the 2013 version)

    · Straub German Pilsner: part of their Summer variety pack (a favorite of @@TongoRad)

    · Sierra Nevada Vienna Lager: part of their Fall variety pack

    · Sierra Nevada Oktoberfest: part of their Fall variety pack and a ‘new’ version to be brewed in 2015

    · Firestone Walker Pivo Pilsner: ‘new’ and year round as of 2+ years ago

    · Rothaus Tannenzäpfle: ‘new’ import to the US (presently in limited markets)

    · Etc.

    I fully recognize that as measured by volume the above is not a big introduction of beer but in aggregate is shows that there are ‘new’ beers being introduced which are not IPAs/DIPAs.

    Cheers!
     
  8. TheBrewo

    TheBrewo Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2010 New York

    I constantly crave new Munich Helles Lagers.
     
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  9. NeckBeardBrews

    NeckBeardBrews Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2015 South Carolina

    It's become all about special releases. If there was a brewery only Jester King or Three Floyds old ale traditional to the style, people would want it, and 10 other hot-right-now breweries would follow suit. But who really wants a classic old ale with no adjuncts or face-slapping hop bitterness? /sarcasm
     
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  10. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    How much luck are you having killing that craving?
     
  11. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    Well, I can't really answer the why--you're asking for an explanation of why people like what they like. It's like asking why people like pizza more than latkes . I could of course delve into the characteristics of pizza vs. the characteristics of latkes, but that doesn't really explain why people prefer the characteristics of pizza to the characteristics of latkes.

    But I'm with you. I love me a good IPA/IIPA or a big, bold barrel-aged stout or barleywine, but there are definitely styles I drink quite often that are outside of that realm. For starters, I really like a lot of different saisons--I know that style has seemingly gained in popularity over the last few years, but it's still not quite as revered as IPAs and barrel-aged beers, at least not by the largest group amongst craft beer drinkers.

    However, I think the style for me that stands out the most as me enjoying that gets virtually no love on the forums (or in ratings) is witbier. There are a couple favorites in that category, but I find myself enjoying them more across the board than most people. Allagash and St. Bernardus are both excellent, but I think there is a lot more the style has to offer: Two Jokers, Whiteout, Blanche de Chambly, Blanche de Bruxelles, ZON, and yes, even Hoegaarden and Sam Adams Little White Rye.
     
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  12. TheBrewo

    TheBrewo Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2010 New York

    I'm doing a rather bad job at it, in fact.
     
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  13. zac16125

    zac16125 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,432) Jan 26, 2010 South Carolina
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  14. Fargrow

    Fargrow Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Michigan

    Vienna Lagers are my jam.
    As far as why people don't line up for certain styles, I have absolutely no idea. Probably mob mentality and a lot of other psychological factors. I bet if good brewery released a limited number of waxed 750ml bottles of an amber ale, Belgian dubbel, or marzen, people would probably go crazy for it. I guess our brains like scarcity and big, pretty bottles.
     
  15. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I was afraid that would be your answer -- same here.
     
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  16. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    I'm sympathetic with the OP's complaint.

    However, American brewers are best at brewing American "innovative" styles like American IPAs and Barrel Aged Stouts and such. On that criteria, they excel.

    But on the whole, with few exceptions, they don't make anywhere near as good versions of traditional styles that are German or Belgian, for example. So, partly I can't blame the American consumer here. Maybe things would be crazy if the local brewers could one up the Germans or the Belgians.
     
  17. mattosgood

    mattosgood Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2014 Massachusetts

    I just wonder sometimes if people like beer, or if they just like IPA's. It's fine if that's the case.

    It's just one of those things: I wouldn't be on Italian Food Advocate if the only Italian food I ate was white pizza.

    Edit: This is not saying people who favor IPA's don't like beer or should get off BA ... I promise I'm not trying to say that. Seriously. I don't want people jumping on me thinking that's what I just implied.
     
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  18. Jnashed

    Jnashed Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2014 Virginia

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  19. kerry4porters

    kerry4porters Maven (1,495) Dec 31, 2012 Arizona

    I love a rich flavorful brown ale that hasn't been beefed up with hops honestly I hated happy browns stuff like Smutty Nose Old Brown Dog and Avery's Ellie are great just every day beer Beer that tastes like Beer as some pretentious people like to say haha
     
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  20. AlienSwineFlu

    AlienSwineFlu Savant (1,135) Dec 14, 2012 Ohio

    Schwarzbier is my favorite under-the-radar style, probably followed by hefeweizen.
     
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