Mold has hit my "cellar"

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by iTunesUpdates, Jan 27, 2015.

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  1. iTunesUpdates

    iTunesUpdates Initiate (0) May 7, 2014 Florida

    So I went into my closet tonight to find every single bottle had mold on it... 80% of my bottle collection is out by the door headed to the trash tomorrow. As for the non empty's, what can I do to get rid of this mold? I have read a few things on here that the beer inside should be fine as long as the cap has a firm seal. But I still don't like having each bottle covered in mold spores. I can't believe I am just now noticing, I check over my beer every night.

    My closet is right next to the shower and I should have seen this coming... But I am now working on wiping all the spores off with a dry paper towel. Will this do anything? Or will it just spread again? Not sure how to get rid of it. Please help... Also going to be getting a dehumidifier this week to cut down on the humidity.

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  2. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    First things first. Check your house for mold before you worry about your beer. You can clean the bottles, but if there is a leak somewhere, that's a bigger problem.
     
  3. iTunesUpdates

    iTunesUpdates Initiate (0) May 7, 2014 Florida

    My entire apartment is covered in mold. I spray x14 on all my windows weekly to get rid of it. We have also had maybe a dozen leeks in our sealing that have probably started mold where we cant see. Me and my gf seriously can't wait to cancel this lease. But now that it has effected my beer, it's personal!
     
  4. Coorsy

    Coorsy Pooh-Bah (1,730) Jul 11, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I would buy some rubbing alcohol, water it down and funnel it in the bottles and swoosh it around. then take some antibacterial disinfectant wipes and wipe down the outside.

    Show the mold who is boss and that they cannot have your bottle collection that easily.
     
  5. iTunesUpdates

    iTunesUpdates Initiate (0) May 7, 2014 Florida

    I'm doing that to all my special bottles but the others, I just told myself I'll just have to drink em again to get the bottle. And there's nothing wrong with having to drink more beer.
     
  6. AndrewK

    AndrewK Savant (1,123) Oct 20, 2006 California

    The beer in your bottles should be fine. Wipe them down with disinfectant wipes. I would suggest investing in a wine cooler to keep your beer in a sealed environment.
     
  7. Tyecko

    Tyecko Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2014 Minnesota

    I have a lot of bottles that have that same look. A little embarrassed that I didn't realize it was mold but I've drank many beers with it on them with no problem.
     
  8. iTunesUpdates

    iTunesUpdates Initiate (0) May 7, 2014 Florida

    Two more questions...
    Anyone know why the spores are only on the necks?
    Also, if there is any mold left on the bottle will it spread again? Like do I need to get every last spore to stop it?
     
  9. SLeffler27

    SLeffler27 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,906) Feb 24, 2008 New York
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    Call ServPro and ask their advice. They deal with mold every day. Mold needs food, warmth, and moisture to grow and spread. Mold is everywhere, and you will never get rid of it but can control it.
     
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  10. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    You've got a much bigger problem on your hands. Your apartment might not be safe to live in. Since you're leasing, your landlord is like responsible for paying for the apartment to be inspected and treated by professionals. If he refuses to pay for it or do this for you, you may have some options as far as doing it yourself, and withholding part of your rent payment. I don't know for sure. If the place is not safe to live in, you may have grounds to break your lease. Again, I'm not sure

    You really need to look at your lease agreement to know for sure. If your lease agreement doesn't mention something (or in some cases, even if it does), you may need to determine what the applicable laws are in Florida to determine what your remedies are.

    I'm an attorney, but not a Florida attorney, so I can't actually help you, but I suggest you talk to a friend who is an attorney, or pm me if you don't know anyone.
     
  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    That's what store-brand vodka is for...cellared bottle cleaner.
     
  12. iTunesUpdates

    iTunesUpdates Initiate (0) May 7, 2014 Florida

    Thanks for the helpful information. I actually read over the lease, and came to the conclusion they knew this was going to happen. They had an addition to the least that we signed. It was a separate sheet of paper that said we take responsibility for any mold that shows up in the apartment. I'm going to try and contact the previous owners of this apartment and see if they had mold issues.
     
  13. ASak10

    ASak10 Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2014 Colorado

    Who cares what the lease says? Each state has habitability laws and you can't just sign them away. You'll need to file written notice with the LL and then they have x number of days (7 in Florida I think) to cure it. If not, you may terminate. Find a local landlord/tenant lawyer and have them help you. No addition to a lease can override their statutory obligations. Seriously, get a lawyer, and GTFO.
     
  14. JasonR1975

    JasonR1975 Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2013 Michigan
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    I wipe down every bottle I intend on storing exactly for that reason - I cellar mine in my basement - stable temperature out of sunlight. Basements are haven for molds - never had a problem but it was one of my first considerations when I started aging bottles.
     
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  15. iTunesUpdates

    iTunesUpdates Initiate (0) May 7, 2014 Florida

    Looking into it now, seems I can get the County Code Enforcement to come out. I called some lawyer's office and they said I could talk to them for 10min for free lol

    Thanks for the motivation people, sounds like I can get out of this. Mainly to save my beer from getting ruined!
     
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  16. ASak10

    ASak10 Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2014 Colorado

    You can do a lot of research on your own. Google stuff like "Florida warranty of habitability" and breaking a lease due to mold. Like a lot of legal stuff, the answer to most things is "it depends." Is it making you sick? Would your doctor write a note that you shouldn't be in that environment? Etc. etc...it's not quite as simple as I made it out of course, you have to make sure everything is documented and in writing, and so on. Even 10 minutes with a lawyer may help you. He may say "no matter what you are stuck, don't waste your time" or he may say here are the options, I can help, whatever. So it still might be worth talking to a few lawyers, even if only for 10 minutes. Good luck!
     
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  17. AirBob

    AirBob Pooh-Bah (1,742) Jul 15, 2014 Massachusetts
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  18. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    @ASak10 is right. You can't necessarily just sign away your rights because it is in a contract. I don't want to say too much, cause I'm not licensed to practice down there, and I don't know Florida law. However, I have a friend who's a Florida lawyer down by Tampa, if you want to talk to someone. He doesn't do landlord tenant law, but he is in real estate, and he may be able to point you in the right direction.

    In the meantime, the most important thing is to make sure you aren't doing irreparable damage to your health by being there. You may need to stay somewhere else for a while.
     
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  19. iTunesUpdates

    iTunesUpdates Initiate (0) May 7, 2014 Florida

    Wow thanks, I actually just scheduled a mold inspector to come out tomorrow and determine the place is habitable. If not, i'm sure he will close it down and have the complex appoint us a new apartment.
     
  20. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    speaking as an environmental scientist who has completed dozens of indoor air quality projects... you are over reacting. and almost certainly incorrect.

    there are no regulatory standards established for mold.
    there are no regulatory requirements for mold mitigation.
    so called toxic mold is mostly bullshit stirred up by unscrupulous contractors (anxious lawyers and real estate agents too I should add). check out the EPA web page, you will see they stress over and over that visible mold is a nuisance and not a practical health concern.

    the mere presence of mold is not note worthy and 999 times out of 1,000 not a health concern. the 1 time mold can be a concern needs to be addressed with serious consideration. in every instance that 1 time is obvious.

    mold is ubiquitous. wipe it down with wet sanitized cloth. eliminate or reduce the source of moisture. adjust the temperature. attempt to remove the food source (cardboard, spilled beer etc.)
    then move on. don't let grandma or a little one play with the fuzz.

    finally... Florida. mold. it happens everywhere and it is not special.
    Cheers.
     
    #20 billandsuz, Jan 27, 2015
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