Does craft beer have room for this type of customer service?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by PorterPatron, Jan 31, 2015.

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  1. cultclassic89

    cultclassic89 Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2013 Texas

    Yeah, this is pretty messed up. Looks like Alpine might be coming to Texas soon through Green Flash. I was planning on buying Nelson and the likes when they get here, but not anymore.
     
  2. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Entertaining thread. I don't care who they insult. I'd still buy their beer, if it was available locally.
     
  3. JoeyStats707

    JoeyStats707 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2014 California
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    Total dick response, possibly the worst customer service I've seen and I give classes on it, but how do you forget to pick up something you paid for? More alpine for me it seems.

    And whats up with the false review from you and a buddy? If you had the beer at the brewery, how do you forget to pick up the beers? Seems like you got it out for Alpine.
     
  4. JoeyStats707

    JoeyStats707 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2014 California
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  5. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Hey you guys, terms are terms. Do you have any idea how much space 2 bottles of beer take up? Rent ain't cheap... :rolling_eyes:
     
  6. Igotmypistola

    Igotmypistola Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2010 California

    @JoeyStats707 nice detective work there DA. Does raise a few flags. Not to insult you OP, but it does seem this is the first post you've ever done. Kinda strange. What media form is this msg and has it been 'tampered'. I'm sure it's prob legit and gross, just hmm
     
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  7. RockAZ

    RockAZ Pundit (983) Jan 6, 2009 Arizona

    The terms of the special buy deal were very clearly stated, but OP's history on this forum too vague, I suspect he is trolling - But if the incident is true, I am sure in-store credit is more than acceptable response to the situation. I don't have a problem with Pat's alleged responses at all, I think they are funny and consistent with the tone of the original offer, they said the brewery staff were going to drink any bottles not picked up in time. How much clearer can you make the terms of the deal?
     
  8. JoeyStats707

    JoeyStats707 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2014 California
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    Seeing as the profile is from back east, I find it very hard to believe they remembered to buy beer, but somehow they forgot to plan the trip during the window and forgot to buy plane tickets and a hotel room? I smell a troll.
     
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  9. cultclassic89

    cultclassic89 Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2013 Texas

    It is true and it's been posted all over the internet. OP isn't the person in the email, by the way, he just copy and pasted from elsewhere. The problem here IS Pat's response. I work in customer service and his response is a very easy way to lose a lot of business. This whole situation is really good way of showing those who are empathetic, and those who aren't.
     
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  10. RockAZ

    RockAZ Pundit (983) Jan 6, 2009 Arizona

    Perhaps, and thanks for clearing up the OP involvement, (sorry about that, PorterPatron !) but I think Pat's alleged responses are funny - dark, a little insulting, but still funny to me since they are consistent with the clearly stated terms of the offer. I suppose whether it is bad customer service really comes down to how the deal works out for the actual parties involved, neither of which have appeared on Reddit or BA,...

    Found a comment on this Reddit thread that cracked me up, " If you're expecting a drug-dealer to make exceptions, you're gonna have a bad time." Ha!
     
  11. Admbmb92

    Admbmb92 Initiate (0) Oct 6, 2013 Oregon

    This is ridiculous and unacceptable. I once sent a letter to deschutes regarding an issue that happened at their Portland pub and they were extremely professional and gracious. They sent me a $100 gift card and offered a private brewery tour to make it right. If you paid for beer and invested in their brand, then you should get beer or at least a polite message explaining why you can't pick up the bottles you paid for. Won't be supporting Alpine
     
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  12. schoolboy

    schoolboy Pooh-Bah (2,655) Dec 23, 2005 Ohio
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    I think they were seeing how far they could push you. Show up in person demanding your beer. Then, if they don't give it to you, order more, and walk out without paying!
     
  13. 1eyed_jack

    1eyed_jack Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2012 Illinois

    Absolutely no point in listening to anything else you have to say.

    How could you not have a problem with that?

    He freaking laughed when the guy asked him a question, who does that? Is this guy 15 years old? He is owner of a company and he seems to think he's leading a frat party or something.

    I prefer places I do business with and give money to at least act with common decency rather than immaturity.

    Plenty of beers to drink. NOT drinking Alpine is absolutely no skin off anyone's back, and that's what I suggest everyone do.
     
  14. 1eyed_jack

    1eyed_jack Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2012 Illinois

    My experience with them was similar. I absolutely love Deschutes. They make great beer and not just in one style, the people working there are some of the nicest people you will meet and their beer isn't marked up like crazy and it quite affordable. One of, if not my favorite brewery out there.

    Customer service goes a long way.
     
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  15. Telly13

    Telly13 Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 California

    Right on lol the merchant (Alpine) will also have to pay and extra fee for a chargeback so OP will have last laugh
     
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  16. Local_Yeti

    Local_Yeti Initiate (0) Sep 27, 2013 New York

    Fine Print undermines fair business practices.

    Terms and Conditions = Ways In which I can screw you over , and in such ways that are upheld in courts.

    Beer Sales should be ( but obviously are not always the case)

    Terms : Beer for sale to individuals of legal age
    Conditions : Legal Tender only-->Pay per fl. Oz unit. --> Agree to pay any federal or state glass/can deposit.--> All sales are final unless beer is infected within a certain reasonable time period.
     
  17. PorterPatron

    PorterPatron Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2010 New Hampshire

    I never claimed that this was my conversation. I'm simply posting it here from another source.
     
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  18. SoCalBeerIdiot

    SoCalBeerIdiot Pooh-Bah (2,191) Mar 10, 2013 California
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    No, sorry, Pat's attitude is the problem. If we all stopped buying his beer, he wouldn't all the sudden become Mr. Niceguy.
     
  19. amsguitarist

    amsguitarist Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2014 California

    @PorterPatron Can you please clarify your obviously ridiculously biased 3.1 rating of Kiwi Herman on release day when you live in New Hampshire? Obviously there is some motive behind your calling out of the brewery and the low rating.
     
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  20. amsguitarist

    amsguitarist Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2014 California

    I know Pat has a reputation for these kinds of things, but isn't it possible there were prior emails that were excluded that could have instigated this response? Obviously Pat doesn't care, but this could have been snipped out and taken out of context.
     
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