Beer Event Etiquette ...

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Chinon01, Feb 26, 2015.

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  1. jimmyfishkin

    jimmyfishkin Initiate (0) Nov 17, 2008 Wisconsin

    There's so much wrong here...if you can't make plans to be there on time, then don't come. This is especially the case when waiting in lines for a rare release or beer fest tickets. It is way ruder to have a group of 3 or 4 friends stroll up to a spot in line and casually integrate themselves in. Of course this won't stop the person in line from purchasing for the group, which is why they should never do these types of events without some per person limit in place.
    We’re pretty easy going folk up here in the Cheese State, but if you tried this in line for Great Taste tickets there might be a dismemberment or 2..:grimacing:
     
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  2. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    Ah, I see. And yes, completely agree.
     
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  3. guinness77

    guinness77 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,554) Jan 6, 2014 New York
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    I'm probably reading way into this, but what it boils down to me is no one is comfortable in their own skin anymore. What's wrong with being alone for 5 freaking minutes? I'm married with kids and constantly working and constantly commuting and constantly surrounded by people and no one can just "be alone." I see it every day, every 2 minutes.

    It's ok. It's great actually. Put down your phone. Don't needlessly call or txt someone. Just...enjoy the moment. Privacy can be a good thing. You don't need constant entertainment. I would literally kill for a few minutes alone. Before the Super Bowl, I went out to buy cold cuts (insert Icky Woods joke here) and people were bitching about the line, and I just stood there for about 20 minutes with a smile on my face. The women on both sides of me were complaining and I just said, when they involved me in their conversation, that this time was going to be the most peaceful of the day, and they both laughed and were both much more relaxed.

    Enjoy the alone time when you can, moral of my post.
     
  4. are_doubleyou

    are_doubleyou Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2014 Illinois

    I think we are working from different assumptions about the event in question here. I clarified a bit more in my reply to CaveDave, because I do see an issue when the line is for something really limited. I just don't get the hostility to all line-cutters in all situations. :slight_smile:
     
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  5. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    GONNA GET SOME ALONE TIME TODAY WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
     
  6. cpabausch

    cpabausch Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2010 Illinois

    Except that studies have shown you shouldn't get over 500ft back and instead stay in your lane until the merge point - see the article on the beauty of the zipper merge. http://arstechnica.com/cars/2014/07/the-beauty-of-zipper-merging-or-why-you-should-drive-ruder/
     
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  7. DanU

    DanU Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2013 Pennsylvania

    If it is no big deal to wait some extra time, your friend could have come to the back of the line to stand with you. It is inconsiderate to make 15 other people (or however many you cut) wait some extra time so you could stand by your friend. If someone should be inconvenienced for you standing in line with your friend, it should be you/your friend. It may not really be that big of a deal, but I tend to think people should try and be considerate of others. If someone cuts in front of me, I'm not someone who would say something to them or throw fruit at the back of their head, I would just let it be.

    Ever hear of the butterfly effect? You just made how many people wait an extra two minutes? What if they are now leaving two minutes later than they would have, which could put them in a car accident when a tree falls into the road. The real question is, are you a line cutter, or a murderer?

    It works two ways you say? Well what if you deprived death by saving someone who would have died to said tree, kind of like they do on final destination, and then death comes for you? YOU JUST CUT THE LINE TO YOUR DOOM MY FRIEND!
     
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  8. FaradayUncaged

    FaradayUncaged Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2014 Michigan

    I can honestly say, even after the clearly divided opinions here, that'd we see anyone go there. lol
     
  9. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Yeah, people cutting at beer events = rules that provide preferential treatment for invalids is obviously exactly what I meant.
     
  10. FaradayUncaged

    FaradayUncaged Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2014 Michigan

    Children at bars is obnoxious enough, let alone when they cut in line for a beer.


    My take on OP's experience is that he cut in line at a busy bar. Somewhere that became a line for limited releases and job interviews. It's been an interesting morning here.
     
  11. IowaPA

    IowaPA Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2014 Iowa

    Comparing a kid with a physical handicap to a (presumably able bodied) thirsty guy at a bar? This thread has gone way off the rails. I've lived places where queuing is not followed, and trust me, respecting the line is the way to go. Cutting's weak sauce.
     
  12. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    This is where the whole slippery slope thing happens. Say you're in a line and there are 30 people in front of you. Then every single one of them just has a friend join them and now there are 60 people in front of you. Are you still cool with that?

    I think the only acceptable line holding situation is when your group gets there and claims their spot in line then one or two people go off at different times to get food or use the bathroom or something. I don't get too bent out of shape when I see true line cutting and I'm not a savage, so I'm not going to fight over it, but that doesn't mean it's not wrong. At the theme park where I grew up, King's Island (home of the greatest and best wooden coaster ever, The Beast) they have signs that say "Line jumping is not a sport at King's Island." This is some common courtesy, golden rule shit. A 5 year old kid would know better.

    Edit: this is not in any way a shot at you, OP.
     
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  13. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    I think you buried the lead here...

    YOU GREW UP AT A THEME PARK?!?!?!? That sounds freaking AWESOME.
     
  14. cosmicevan

    cosmicevan Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2009 New York
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    this may have already been addressed but not caught up so forgive if i am treading over ground already covered, but getting a job through a friend doesn't equate to getting a better spot on line at a beer release, it more equates to having a friend at the brewery that lets you in before doors open and/or sets bottles aside for you...ie. to the victor goes the spoils and to the rest "hey, that's not fair"

    having a friend further up in line doesn't really equate to having a connection. having a connection means having someone on the inside who can do something for you that the regular public cannot have access to. the regular public all has the same access to the line and that's why cutting is a BS thing to do. you are basically saying to everyone that your time is more important than theirs...including your friend's time.


    edit - looks like EVERYONE had the same thoughts. @Akerstache you do not need to reply a 9th time to the comment, i think we beat you over the head enough to just say the analogy wasn't sound.
     
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  15. are_doubleyou

    are_doubleyou Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2014 Illinois

    I was attempting to mock the absolutist perspective of some people on the topic because I don't see "cutting is always fine" or "cutting is always wrong". I wasn't trying to equate the two, I was taking "no cutting" to an absurd extreme. Apparently my attempt at levity came across as calling @cavedave someone who would scream at someone at children over a roller coaster. :slight_frown: Sorry, dude.
     
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  16. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    "Appalled"? Lol - that's a little strong. And then you put a completely extreme and unrelated example in there too for good measure

    Why is this a f**king conversation. We're all adults. Don't cut in line at beer events. How is this up for debate? Yes it's more annoying to be cut when you're 50th in line for a 50 bottle release, than when you're 3rd in line at the bar waiting for a two hearted. But still - there isn't a different level of etiquette. Don't. Cut.
     
  17. hoerr

    hoerr Initiate (0) Oct 18, 2009 South Carolina

    So I went to the DMV about a month ago. The lines for DMV services were really long. A friend was well ahead in line when I arrived and signaled me to come over and join the line where he was. One or two people made comments to me pointing "the line starts back there". I kinda just raised my shoulders.

    Then I got the shit kicked out of me by the people who'd been standing there for 2 hours for their turn, only to have me mosey up and slow down their day even more.

    Bad form? Absolutely. As with any line-cutting. You want the beer earlier, get there earlier. It shouldn't matter who you know in the line as to where your place is. Your place is the end of the line when you walk up. Period.
     
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  18. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Haven't you heard? Rationalizing bad behavior, ala Rush Limbaugh, is "in".
     
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  19. TankerSteve

    TankerSteve Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2014 Washington

    Here's my favorite after someone cuts in line "don't worry, there's plenty for everyone, what's your rush". Pretty much a person that couldn't bear to be patient wait in line, telling you to be patient and wait in line. And then the people saying "It's no big deal, chill" If it's no big deal where you stand in line, why don't you head on to the back then bro?
     
  20. BrettHead

    BrettHead Initiate (0) Sep 18, 2010 Nebraska

    So the person cutting the line is not the impatient one? It's the people who are being cut? What in the actual f**k!? :astonished:
     
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