2007 Bourbon County in Pappy Barrels?

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  1. JRorie

    JRorie Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2010 Illinois

    It doesn't exist. Straight from GI, not out there. If you hear otherwise, it's false. Just wanting to set it straight.

    Hello XXX,

    Aaron here with Goose Island. Thanks for your patience while we looked into your question. I truly appreciate your interest in our finely crafted ales.

    2007 Bourbon County Stout was aged in Heaven Hill Barrels. The Pappy Barrels were filled later, so I'm afraid the 2007 wasn't Pappy Vintage.

    Thanks again for the email, XXX. If there is ever anything I can do for you in the future, feel free to get back in touch.

    Cheers,

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  2. Jose2412

    Jose2412 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2012 Michigan

    Thanks for posting the info!!
     
  3. ant880

    ant880 Savant (1,179) Nov 7, 2010 New York
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    He's wrong. Surely this Aaron character (if that is even his real name) and his "supposed" Goose Island beer knowledge do not trump my highly trained palate. As if I would ever mistake the flavors imparted by Pappy Van Winkle barrels for the flavors imparted by Heaven Hill barrels...what is this amateur hour?
     
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  4. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Pretty sure a GI brewer posted in a thread on this in the Trading forums saying the same thing as the above email ("Rare is the only BCBS aged in Pappy barrels," or something like that).
    I don't think it was ever established that that was really GI's poster (let me know if I'm wrong).
     
  5. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    No, it only could have been made my someone who doesn't understand how to make graphs. Those axes are a travesty.
     
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  6. dvelcich

    dvelcich Zealot (646) Feb 6, 2008 Illinois
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    That was this here:

    http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/vintage-bcbs-questions.23440/#post-293697

    The thing that made me question that response, though, was him saying 2008 was the last year they used twist off caps. They changed the label that year, but used the twist offs in 09 as well.

    The thing that makes me question this response is, "The Pappy barrels were filled later." Which Pappy barrels? People seem to equate the subject 07 to Rare, but no one seems to notice the poster (I too would like to know if this was from GI, which was my understanding) says 21yr PVW barrels, while Rare was aged in 23yr PVW barrels.

    Until someone official says that the poster was not made by GI and/or included misinformation, specifically that they never used 21yr PVW barrels, the debate will live on.

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  7. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    That dood riding the barrel looks like he knows how to party.
     
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  8. MaxSpang

    MaxSpang Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2011 Ohio
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    So my 2007 BCBS weren't aged in Pappy barrels? BRB gotta start dumping them out
     
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  9. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    All you people couldn't tell the different for 5 years until this info was unearthed from some cell phone pic of a poster that could've been made by anyone.

    That store in Kentucky probably made this poster so they could create hysteria and move the remaining 20 cases of '07 and BCS Rare that they haven't been able to get rid of.
     
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  10. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    I think he's peeing in the bunghole.
     
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  11. StarRaptor

    StarRaptor Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2010 California

    The thing that makes me really question the legitimacy of the chart is the lack of any Goose Island logos, copyrights or TMs
     
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  12. JAXSON

    JAXSON Maven (1,336) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I opened one of the subject 2007 bottles tonight. The nose is pretty huge and rich, not very unlike Rare. It's certainly thinner than Rare in the mouth, like all regular BCBS, and is a good bit more mellow than fresh BCBS bottles. I don't know either way what kind of barrel it was aged it but it's got a lot of sweet caramel and sweet apple flavors, with darker tobacco and some ash. Pretty lovely and I wouldn't be surprised to hear this was in fact Pappy Van Winkle barrel aged, but whatever it was aged in this 10/12/07 bottling is really good.
     
  13. FTowne

    FTowne Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 Missouri

    This made me giggle like a 4th grader.
     
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  14. Danielbt

    Danielbt Initiate (0) May 4, 2012 Texas

    He's definitely doing something to the bunghole.
     
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  15. Jose2412

    Jose2412 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2012 Michigan

    haha "Bunghole"
     
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  16. PangaeaBeerFood

    PangaeaBeerFood Initiate (0) Nov 30, 2008 New York

    I could have told you that 2007 BCS wasn't aged in Pappy Barrels. Here's why:

    1. Pappy Barrels are way more expensive than Heaven Hill, so the beer would have been significantly more expensive. I can't imagine Goose Island just forgot to notice that their cost of production went up substantially that year and didn't significantly increase the price. If so, their Operations team should be fired.

    2. Pappy is one of the most well known, most sought after, most expensive and most well reviewed ultra-super-duper-premium bourbons. I can't imagine that they just forgot to mention that the bourbon seeping into their stout that year went from $10/bottle Evan Williams to $250/bottle 23-Year Aged Pappy. If so, their Marketing team should be fired.

    The only BCS beers that have been aged in Pappy Barrels were BCS Rare and King Henry, because the price and marketing reflected it.
     
  17. OSUBeerStudent

    OSUBeerStudent Initiate (0) May 2, 2008 Washington

    Heaven Hill is the official answer, as it was the original reason for this thread's existence.
     
  18. tjensen3618

    tjensen3618 Maven (1,391) Mar 23, 2008 California

    Who gives a shit anyways?

    I guarantee, that nobody here could tell the difference in a double blind taste test, even if they were aged in PvW barrels.
     
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  19. PangaeaBeerFood

    PangaeaBeerFood Initiate (0) Nov 30, 2008 New York

    Lies. Having an account with Beer Advocate instantly makes you a super-taster.
     
  20. Highbrow

    Highbrow Pooh-Bah (1,770) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    but what i'm guessing a lot of folks don't realize/recognize is Heaven Hill bought Bernheim & Bernheim once produced wheated bourbon that was matured in S-W's warehouse system + branded with the prestigious #DSP-16. there was a point in time where Pappy Special Reserve 12 year old, amongst other things was Bernheim juice.

    point being, the argument can go on forever as to what was what or made/owned by who, it's hard to really know for sure! what's somewhat worrisome is it would appear some brewers don't know much more about what's going on than "we" do.
     
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