(Why) Are imports overlooked?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by SackBlabbath, Mar 2, 2015.

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  1. SackBlabbath

    SackBlabbath Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2014 Kentucky

    I feel like most of the time when i'm conversing about craft beer the conversation stays centered around American breweries. Some (if not most) of the best beers I have had have come from across the pond. Do you guys feel like there are a lot of good imports that go overlooked? Of course most people are into Belgians. German beers seem particularly under-rated amongst craft drinkers, as well as a good handful of other fantastic European breweries. Do you guys agree with me on this one? If so, why do you think that is?

    I believe that in part it has to do with the marketing, a lot of the imports (especially from older breweries) have a "traditional" look that doesn't really catch the eye, where as a lot of US breweries have crazy labels to catch your eye, so you notice those first. Also that the fact that many of them have names that are hard enough to pronounce, much less remember, leaves them forgotten. I'd love to hear opinions on this, so fire away!
     
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  2. ColdOne

    ColdOne Maven (1,346) Jan 19, 2013 New York
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    This might just be my own bias, but I'm always worried about freshness when it comes to imports. I have no idea how long it's been around, whether it was bounced for weeks on the sea, and how well it's been handled. So when I try a Samuel Smiths, for example, I'm always wondering if it's anything remotely like what it would taste in England.
     
  3. SackBlabbath

    SackBlabbath Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2014 Kentucky

    I've never even though of that, but now i'm smacking my own head. Makes total sense. Most of my favorite beer styles can stand a little age, however. I bet there's nothing in this world that compares to a "fresh" Weihenstephaner.
     
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  4. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Many of them are 3-6 months old by the time they get to the stores and I generally prefer fresh beer unless it’s a beer in a style that ages well.
     
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  5. lambpasty

    lambpasty Initiate (0) May 3, 2013 New Hampshire

    It probably comes down to
    • Freshness
    • Local Variety
    • Availability of certain (read:hop-forward) styles

    The biggest trends in the craft arena right now tend to be hop bombs and enormous imperial stouts/porters, with wild ales/sours probably coming in third. To my knowledge the US is doing a lot more of that currently, especially hoppy stuff, than anywhere else.

    I think just in general too if I wanted a pils, for example, I would probably pick up any of the dozens of relatively local versions that I know I can get very fresh vs something authentic that may be months old.
     
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  6. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    I really like most Mikkeller beers, Mosaic Imperial India Pale Ale being one of my favorite. I will seek them out when I am out. I also have tried Baird Brewing Company's Suruga Bay Imperial IPA, which I really enjoyed. So I think it is along the lines if these beers can be found in your area. I think most stores are just having a hard time just keeping up with what the US breweries are doing
     
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  7. gibgink

    gibgink Pooh-Bah (1,581) Oct 27, 2014 Missouri
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    Don't forget price. Sadly, some of the imports that I see come with a hefty price tag. I don't really want to spend 15-20 bucks on a beer I know very little about. Even checking BA while looking at them, the price doesn't justify the ratings that they are given.
     
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  8. darkandhoppy

    darkandhoppy Savant (1,099) Dec 26, 2008 Connecticut

    for me, it's the freshness. I've been spoiled by some great fresh beer here in new england
     
  9. Jeffreysan

    Jeffreysan Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2013 Virginia

    It's because imports aren't IPAs, and on BA, actually, among most (I'm assuming) beer geeks, it's all about the hops and IPAs.

    Personally, I love imports, Belgian, English, German, they're all great!!
     
  10. tjumfrid

    tjumfrid Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2013 Arizona

    You are also much more likely to see some crazy variations on traditional styles here in the U.S. than in the old world. We aren't afraid to throw some crazy adjuncts into our beers and create outrageous examples of different styles. I feel that many of the old world breweries are far more traditionalist and like to stick with the basics. I find the uniqueness of the U.S. craft scene invigorating and exciting.
     
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  11. SackBlabbath

    SackBlabbath Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2014 Kentucky

    I agree, but i'm starting to find that the "traditional" styles don't vary much for a good reason. They have their recepies figured out, and they don't need to do something crazy to make an absolutely outstanding beer. It's kind of like when you go out to a steakhouse and get a steak smothered in butter and garlic, it's good, but you're not really tasting the steak.
     
  12. ffOpusx

    ffOpusx Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2011 California
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    because 90% of the beer i drink are IPA's, i don't think about imports!
     
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  13. SackBlabbath

    SackBlabbath Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2014 Kentucky

    That's probably 75-100% of the answer.
     
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  14. tjumfrid

    tjumfrid Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2013 Arizona

    I agree that the old world styles are tried and true- there is no need to change them up since they are essentially already perfect. Give me a St. Bernardus 12 or a Rochefort over a U.S. Belgian knock-off any day. Speaking as a country though, I do feel we have beer A.D.D. We like trying new things and don't like to settle on the same beer day in-day out. Perhaps other countries are fine with sticking with the same ol' traditionally brewed brew.
     
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  15. tjumfrid

    tjumfrid Initiate (0) Jun 15, 2013 Arizona

    I don't care how gross the new Rogue-Voodoo beer is, I'm going to buy it!
     
  16. 57md

    57md Grand Pooh-Bah (3,033) Aug 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I don't think that marketing has much to do with it. Freshness may play a small part.

    I tend to think that the overwhelming reason is that the flavors in European beers (esp. Germans) tend to be more subtle. Big flavors be they roasty, hoppy, sour or funky get the attention of most of us here on BA.

    I'm not being preachy because I will confess to being guilty as charged. Give me a big barrel aged stout or barleywine or a bitter as all hell DIPA over a well crafted pils any day of the week and I'll be a happy camper.
     
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  17. SackBlabbath

    SackBlabbath Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2014 Kentucky

    I think this is a huge misconception, that i also had for a very long time. A lot of german beers are anything but subtle. Especially Aventinus Eisbock, that one really has changed my opinion, along with Weihenstephaner, and Schlenkerla beers. I'm just starting to discover the wonders of German beer, and for a long time i would have said i don't like German beer, for exactly that reason, they were more subtle, which compared to a BA Stout with Chilies and Cocoa, seems "bland", but really they're anything but.
     
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  18. Eman17

    Eman17 Pooh-Bah (1,692) Jul 18, 2014 Illinois
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    • Marketing like you said
    • Limited releases and other sorts of hype promotion really get people going with American beers
    • Americans build stronger bonds with American breweries from visiting them, being local, festivals (ie. Dark Lord Day), etc.
    • Price
    • Freshness
    • IPAs
     
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  19. 57md

    57md Grand Pooh-Bah (3,033) Aug 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    I have not had Aventinus Eisbock but I have had the Tap 6 and I agree that it is anything but subtle.
     
  20. KeithE

    KeithE Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2013 Illinois

    I have traveled to about a half dozen countries in the last year. It seems to me that most other countries are way behind what is going on in craft beer in the US. Either they are not interested in doing it or if they are they are not good at it.
     
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