Extreme noob question - clean bottles?

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  1. pwokeefe

    pwokeefe Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2014 Illinois

    My first batch from a Northern Brewer starter kit is sitting now at three weeks, and it is almost time to bottle. My wife and I have been downing beer obsessively to have enough empty bottles to use.

    How the heck do I know whether they are clean? I can't see in them. We rinse them out right when we pour the original beer, but, it's not like I can see in there to know what's going on. It's dark inside. How do I make sure the bottles are ready to go, just StarSan them and hope for the best?
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    For my homebrewed beers where I reuse my bottles my process is pretty much the same as you: I rinse them out immediately after pouring the homebrewed beer out and then I sanitize them prior to using them again for bottling.

    One thing I have 'learned' is that if you hold the beer bottles up to a light source you can peer into the neck end and observe the bottom of the bottle to see if there is any crud or gunk on the bottom of the bottle.

    Cheers!
     
  3. witster18

    witster18 Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2006 Tennessee

    wash them right after drinking them... then later before bottling re-rinse, and look through the opening tilting the beer up towards a light source(lightbulb on the ceiling?), and you'll be able to see if anything looks unkosher... look in the tiny little grooves along the inside outer-bottom edge... if anything is left in there that's where it will be... it there's really nasty crud in those grooves you're prob better just recycling them for real...
     
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  4. CavemanBrau

    CavemanBrau Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 Iowa

    IMO, don't just use StarSan and trust that your rinse was good enough. I put a little Oxiclean (no odor) and hot water in my bottling bucket. Fill each bottle about half way with the hot water/oxi mixture through the bottling valve. Shake the ever-loving shite out of the bottles and keep the mixture in the bottle as you fill the remainder. Once all bottles are filled, start with the first bottle, shake, pour out oxi/water mix, rinse 2 to 4 times with hot water. Repeat for all bottles.
    Then I fill the bottling bucket with StarSan and cold water to about the 2 gallon mark. Do the same process of filling the bottles and shaking, only this time when you pour our you do not need to rinse the StarSan. I also have a FastRack to drain bottles by storing them upside down. Great investment IMO.[​IMG]
     
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  5. witster18

    witster18 Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2006 Tennessee

    cleaning sedimented crud is prob harder than removing labels... best to just do that thorough wash right after drinking, re-rinse before use, ck in light, star san, dry, use
     
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  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    If they are brand new, you should only need to rinse and star San them. Or you could scrub with a bottle brush and consider it practice for all the times in the future that you will want to do this.
     
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  7. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

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  8. Mag00n

    Mag00n Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2008 New York

    caddamn thats a lot of work lol. Rinse immediately after using, then run in dish wahser day of with santize/steam cycle and steam dry..never had an issue with bombs :slight_smile:
     
  9. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    I immediately rinse out a beer bottle 3 times even when not reusing a bottle. I just hate the stink of stale, sticky beer when doing the recycling. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  10. CavemanBrau

    CavemanBrau Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 Iowa

    Tis a lot of work. Nothing more I hate than putting in all that time making a beer and having my bottles eff it up (happened only once, and I'll never trust the rinse again). I only bottle in 22 oz. format though, so basically cuts down to half the bottles.
    Also, some of do not have (or want) a dishwasher in our homes.
     
  11. MCBanjoMike

    MCBanjoMike Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2014 Canada (QC)

    Yeah, I started rinsing out beer bottles years before I took up homebrewing. Mostly to keep the fruit flies away in the summer.
     
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  12. Buck89

    Buck89 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,782) Feb 7, 2015 Tennessee
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    This might be overkill, but I quickly clean with a little PBW, rinse, dry, put foil on the top and sterilize in the oven at 275 overnight. I put them in before I turn on the oven so they don't heat too fast and thus avoid thermal shock. I then consider the bottles good to go indefinitely as long as the foil remains intact.
     
  13. Mike_Aguirre

    Mike_Aguirre Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2015 Mexico

    I rinse bottles immediately after pouring original beer, the I boil used bottles for 10 minutes and bottle my new beer. Never had contamination issues. If I have new bottles I just use some starsan.
     
  14. Aventinus88

    Aventinus88 Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2014 New Jersey

    one word...dishwasher...assuming you have one. It's come in handy many a time.
     
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  15. pwokeefe

    pwokeefe Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2014 Illinois

    I do have a dishwasher... I assumed the detergent and rinse aid would be problematic.
     
  16. pwokeefe

    pwokeefe Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2014 Illinois

    Taking the easy route, I see...
     
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  17. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    One step that a lot of people omit is filling the bottles with hot water and oxiclean or pbw. No bottle brushing is needed unless you skimped on the soap. Let them soak overnight. Rinse 3x. Sanitize. You don't necessarily have to do this every time. Some beers rinse clean. Others leave a film.

    If you never do it, try it on one bottle and compare that bottle to your other bottles. Fill them with water and hold them up to a light bulb. The difference will be obvious.
     
  18. stealth

    stealth Pooh-Bah (2,023) Dec 16, 2011 Minnesota
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    Oxyclean soak + rinse + starsan here as well. Too much time/effort invested in the beer to blow it on such a simple thing. Although, I'm surprised to read in some reputable brewing books that the authors often do not do more than rinse out their bottles (no sanitation used) and they do not have issues.
     
  19. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Count me in the camp of hot water rinse immediately after pouring + sanitize cycle without detergent in the ol' lavaplatos.
     
  20. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    You can really see built up crud by looking through the neck with a decent light source outside.

    I always do a quick rinse with some hot water shortly after drinking. Keeping mold from growing is 90% of the cleaning battle
     
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