Sours - The Tarter The Better?

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  1. Sweffin

    Sweffin Pooh-Bah (1,784) Jun 25, 2013 Wisconsin
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    When I first started drinking sours, I always found myself opting towards the tartest option. Recently, however, I've had some less tart, more complex sours that I was really blown away by. While I currently find myself loving both super tart and more balances sours, I am curious to hear other people's thoughts on the matter.
     
  2. honeynutoreos

    honeynutoreos Aspirant (229) Jul 23, 2013 Arizona

    I'm more of a fan of the super tart option, I'm usually disappointed when i get a sour and its only a tiny bit tart
     
  3. johnjohnbeer

    johnjohnbeer Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2012 Ohio

    I don't want to get instant heart burn (upland lambics) but I also don't want it to taste like a watered down lemonade. That's why wicked weeds sours are some of my favs.
     
  4. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Tart and dry, hell yeah- but there's got to be a harmonious balance to it, after all.

    I can't get enough Rodenbach Grand Cru, so to me that's about where the sweet spot is.

    I had a La Folie a few years ago, but that one seemed to be fairly clumsy in comparison, almost fetishizing the sour aspect. In that respect, I just can't go along with the tarter the better attitude.
     
  5. thatoneguymike

    thatoneguymike Pooh-Bah (1,947) Sep 18, 2012 Georgia
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    I get heartburn on the really sour stuff, yet I'm of the belief that if it says sour, it had better be sour, dammit! I want tastebud-injure-my-tongue-like-3-warheads-at-a-time-sour if 'sour' is what it claims. I'll have a little more leniency with 'tart'.
     
  6. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I agree w/ the OP. I'll take complexity over straight-up in-your-face tartness/sourness. There's nothing like a truly well-built gueuze.
     
  7. GOBLIN

    GOBLIN Pooh-Bah (2,676) Mar 3, 2013 Ohio
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    I think I went through the same thing with ipa's. Once I got used to them the more unbalanced the better . . . Wasn't happy unless it was a huge hop bomb. Now I can appreciate many takes on the style. I'd say I'm still in the big huge up in your face tartness of sours stage. But once I get a grasp of the various sour styles I'll begin to prefer something more balanced.
     
  8. 2ellas

    2ellas Maven (1,302) Feb 20, 2014 New Hampshire
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    The closer it tastes to stomach bile, the closer to perfect it is
     
  9. AlienSwineFlu

    AlienSwineFlu Savant (1,135) Dec 14, 2012 Ohio

    No, not at all. I used to think that until I tried some truly excellent mellow sours like Cable Car. Super tart sours like Upland offerings just really can't come close after your palate has adjusted to drinking sours for a long time IMO.
     
  10. AugustusRex

    AugustusRex Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2013 Canada (ON)

    I think it's disgusting when people compare the taste of sour beers to warheads and other sour candy. I don't care how sour a beer is as long as the tartness doesn't sacrifice complexity. Saying "the tarter the better" is as silly as saying "the higher the ibu the better" or "the more barrel character the better". Who wants a one dimensional beer?

    A good sour will have a nice sherry flavour, sourdough bread character, vinous character, and just enough acidity to be refreshing. I like when the sourness reminds me of plain baltic yogurt.
     
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  11. AugustusRex

    AugustusRex Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2013 Canada (ON)

    Rodenbach Grand Cru is one of my favourites. There is a unique sherry flavour that becomes prominent in the finish. I don't get that in any other Rodenbach or Flanders Red. I haven't opened my Caractere Rouge or found an Alexander yet though!
     
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  12. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    The balanced the better.
     
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  13. blockdude

    blockdude Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2014 California

    I feel like if it's too sour, it can easily mask the flavors going on in the beer. For me, complexity and balance are the best characteristics.
     
  14. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Grand Pooh-Bah (4,516) Oct 13, 2007 Wisconsin
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    The more tart doesn't always equal better. When you start to feel enamel coming off your teeth after a sip, you've gone too far.
     
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  15. Spiral517

    Spiral517 Zealot (687) Sep 17, 2013 Maryland

    I've decided that I like funk but not sourness. Tried la folie last year and didn't like it at all. Just too sour/acidic. I also tried Rodenbach grand cru and, while I didn't dislike it, I didn't really love it either. Tasted like a novelty cocktail drink that might be fun at a wedding or something, but didn't really taste like beer to me. More like champagne. I like beer more than champagne.
     
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  16. bcp5296d

    bcp5296d Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2012 North Carolina

    I was gonna post I don't like anything much more sour than (*most) gueuze. Not a big fan of the vinegar either, and it seems american breweries (barring jester king and a few other) are having a tough time making a really sour beer that doesn't taste like vinegar
     
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  17. HopBackGorilla

    HopBackGorilla Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2015 New York

    As tart and dry as I can get it. That's Sours to me.
     
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  18. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    Not at alll. I like balance and actual complexity. Most American breweries are having a real tough go with this. I do not want a beer than just makes me think how good it would be on a salad.
     
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  19. will_eye_e

    will_eye_e Pundit (849) Jul 29, 2013 Florida

    The fruit beers from OP's neck of the woods are what I look for in a sour. But at times, I do enjoy a warhead type sour beer.
     
  20. tmrmwel

    tmrmwel Aspirant (290) Oct 14, 2008 Norway

    Guess it all depends on the reference frame, but still tartness is just one aspect of it all.

    Mostly it's all about what AugustusRex said: Who wants a one dimensional beer?
     
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