Do you mind when breweries refuse to grow or expand?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by brewbetter, Jul 10, 2012.

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  1. Geno78

    Geno78 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2010 Ohio

    I think these breweries are being incredibly selfish.

    Also, do you realize they are actually charging MONEY for the beer they brew? We should be able to drink beer for free!

    Greedy bastards.
     
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  2. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    No. They know what's best for them so who am I to argue?
     
  3. JimKal

    JimKal Savant (1,213) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

    In addition to the costs of increasing distribution, I think it admirable that a brewery first serve its local fans. Most new breweries have to convince locals that it is worth it to try their beer. The local fans are the ones that make them a success. Yes, there are beers that I would like to here in NC but I can still find great offerings from NB, SA, SN and a number of local breweries. The BMC folks are the ones that what to be in every persons fridge and that has led to mediocre beer. The OP has his opinion and it doesn't seem to be changing. While I don't think a decision not to expand is selfish, I'd rather focus on the hundreds of new breweries coming to life rather than worry about someone's business plan. I also get to try things I can't find here when I travel - it adds to my enjoyment. I was in St. Louis last week and just about everything I tried I can't get here in NC. I really enjoyed an O'Fallon Hemp, Hop, and Rye. I liked it so much I will definitely buy it again when I'm in the area. But, I wouldn't call them selfish for not sending it to NC. After all, isn't part of the BA schtick supporting local?
     
  4. JoEBoBpr

    JoEBoBpr Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2004 Missouri

    Yes because i want to drink them. No, because I understand that they know more about their business than I do.
     
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  5. CasanovaCummins

    CasanovaCummins Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2012 Nevada

    Hell, what would be really selfish is if they shuttered their doors and sat around all day drinking their brews. Not that would be selfish.

    And that is entirely their decision. It is THEIR beer after all. You're lucky they let you buy it.
     
  6. duchessedubourg

    duchessedubourg Savant (1,181) Nov 2, 2007 Vermont

    Posts like this are wretched. Unless you have taken the risk of running a brewery and doing it successfully in terms of quality, local loyalty, and sustainability, you should STFU and put your sense of entitlement where it belongs - if you know what I mean. :rolling_eyes:
     
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  7. MaineMike

    MaineMike Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2011 Maine

    I'm going to assume you're a homebrewer from your name and avatar (humor me here). Now I would like to purchase a few cases of beer from you each week. I'll pay wholesale, lets say $30 dollars a case. I expect the finest quality as well as local representation.
    For you to not expand your homebrewing production to provide me with the beer I want would simply be selfish. By the way, if I don't like your beer I'll stop buying it and then you're going to have to find someone else, somewhere else that wants to buy all that beer you've been making. What say you?
     
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  8. brewbetter

    brewbetter Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2012 Nauru

    You can speak in hypotheticals if you want, but I've said that the price should be as high as the market will bear. I've never complained about high prices.
     
  9. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Thank you Mr.Romney!
     
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  10. dmoser

    dmoser Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2009 California

    Raising prices drastically is a sure fire way to alienate your established customer base. Call me selfish (magic word) but I don't feel like paying more for a beer I already get just because it's not available to you.
     
  11. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    IT MAKES ME SOOO MAD!!!:angry:
     
  12. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    You are undeniably capable of donating some of your money to charity (because you have disposable income as evident by your consumption of craft beer). You are undeniably capable of donating some of your free time to community service efforts (because you have time to come on this website and engage in conversations with other BA's). Would it be fair for me to say you are being selfish because you don't donate more/any of your time and money?
     
  13. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    You would always assume that a brewery knows "what's best for them"? Meaning no business ever fails for poor decisions?
     
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  14. Geno78

    Geno78 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2010 Ohio

    Do businesses succeed by taking half-ass business advice from people posting on an internet message board?
     
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  15. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    Sometimes, yes. Good businesses solicit the opinions of their market.
     
  16. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    Just wanted to add to this part of the thread, some of this unusual cost (and part of what NB is investing in the community) is the reclamation of the brownfield site where they will build. If I remember correctly it was a livestock market many years ago and is located in a heavily industrial part of town that is attempting a revitalization. Their choice of location jacked up their costs, but will do much good in a formerly nasty area.


    You're the one that hung this target OP. You're new here--you'll soon figure out what kind of responses asinine statements like your original will bring.
    Aaaand now there's one for your back...
     
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  17. franklinn

    franklinn Initiate (0) May 29, 2012 Vermont

    Went away for a day, good to see this one is still going. We're all missing an important point in the OP's argument here....


    What is more selfish:
    Producing quality beer at a reasonable price and distributing it within the means of your business model and practice

    or

    doubling or tripling the cost of that same beer so you can distribute less beer further and make more money

    I guess I will leave you with this question, OP: Do you understand what the word selfish actually means?
     
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  18. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    Is that what Stone did?
     
  19. franklinn

    franklinn Initiate (0) May 29, 2012 Vermont


    I don't know, as an east coaster I really don't know anything about stone's methods, other than that I can get them at my local stores if I want, but generally pass over them. And I especially don't know ANYTHING about how they were before I could get them here.
     
  20. brewbetter

    brewbetter Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2012 Nauru

    Pricing your beer according to the market is NOT selfish. Thinking that your local market is some how more worthy than the rest of US is silly to me.
     
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