Question about leaving "bad" feedback

The general consensus here is that when the shipper sends a box that's damaged by the freight carrier, it's totally on the shipper to replace what was lost. I believe the best practice and general custom is to even add a bit more or include nicer extras than contained in the original box. I don't think anyone would expect you to ship out another box because of this. While patience on your part should be exercised in this situation - and it seems that you have - enough shipping dates have been postponed that you should probably let the shipper know you started this thread and that you would appreciate a response from him before outing him publicly. Feedback shouldn't be left before you give him the choice to respond or not. If he responds and comes through, feeback should be good. If he doesn't respond or doesn't come through, it should be bad and not ok.

 

Publicly outing people seems to work pretty well....It has been long enough imo..

 

Delivery of items stated in the trade agreement is totally on the sender until it gets to you. You don't need to send him another box. It's up to you how patient you want to be with these missed shipping dates, but holding out in good faith might get you better results than putting a lot of pressure on him. Tactful reminding perhaps..

I disagree that publicly outing is a good idea without mentioning this thread in a private message first.

 

While I'm not saying this happened in this case, the reason you should make the person send a second box is this, if all the was required was a single good faith effort in sending a box someone could send a twelve pack of Bud Light without any protection, provide a tracking number and be shocked when it gets returned.

A trade isn't complete, to me, until both sides get the beer they agreed to trade.

 

You've been very patient. Your box should have been shipped when he said it would be unless there are good reasons for the delays. Has he given you any reasons? If so, what are they?

You didn't owe him a box, although I understand & appreciate your reasoning in thinking that you do. However, once you've offered to send another box you should do so. Unless you made very specific offers or promises of what you'd send, it only needs to be a consolation box, ie some nice beers, nothing life altering or rare.

I vote pm tio alert him to this thread if you think he's just dragging ass. IF you think he's deliberately decided to rip you off & never ship then out him. Obviously that's your judgment to make.

 

Reply sent. Obviously never meant for this to take so long. Life happens

 

Never expected or asked for a second box from Tyler. Overall unfortunate that the first box broke. And I see how it looks. I made many delays but not because I was trying to blow him off. I have had a great box ready to go ever since the first date I said I would ship. Unfortunately life events are more important to me than beer trading. And if anyone wants to think less of me for that, go for it.

 

Noone called you out @jakewatt135. He was asking about what he should do.

 

Yeah I see that now. Thanks

 

Life does happen, but beer trading is a luxury, not a necessity. If your life doesn't allow you to complete trades and communicate in a timely manner, it is very simple, don't trade beer. According to OP you told him 4 times you would ship and never did. Not cool.

 

You're right, it is simple. Where do I report to receive my beer advocate lashings?

 

ha, ha. Maybe you should be forced to drink a bottle each of Stone Crime and Stone Punishment.

 

So we can all cheer happily as it arrives!

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In one sitting! Holy heartburn batman. I had a taster of crime once, awful.

 

I just love a happy ending. This looks like it's headed that way. Coool.

 

Don't we all

 

so checked in on this tracking and the shipping label was created but that doesnt mean the box has been actually picked up. its been shipping label created since wednesday.

 

Yep, this hasn't been dropped off at FedEx yet.