Back to Bamberg

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  1. Bierman9

    Bierman9 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,313) Dec 20, 2001 New Hampshire
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    I will be back in late September. I'm staying in Rothenburg but will make a day-trip. I always hit Schlenkerla, and I just may have to dine there... We'll see...

    Prosit!
     
  2. UncleJimbo

    UncleJimbo Grand Pooh-Bah (3,771) Sep 11, 2002 Massachusetts
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    Hey, Bierman9, remember this from 2005 when we met in the Schlenkerla Schwemme for a couple of biers? :sunglasses:

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    Good times!
     
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  3. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Final day: woke up feeling pretty fresh (good thing we left those Brauerei Hoenig bottles undisturbed in the fridge...and waiting for the next guests of the Ferienwohnung). Cleaned up, checked out, and went to fetch the car for the trip down to Munich. Really hated to leave Bamberg, and we're going to try now to make this an annual (or possibly bi-annual) trip, as this journey exceeded all of our (admittedly high) expectations. There's simply no other place like Bamberg on Earth, and anyone who tries to tell you that there is a town or city whose beer culture permeates daily life the way it does in Bamberg is mistaken. From the fields of grain you walk and/or drive past to the huge 19th century maltings on either side of the tracks as you approach the city by train to the smell of decoction mashes pouring down otherwise nondescript side streets as you walk to the baker or butcher to do your daily shopping, no place lives and breathes beer like Bamberg.

    Anyhow, we hopped in the car, headed out of town toward the Autobahn, and drove south, past the felled trees between Bamberg and Baiersdorf...past Hirschaid with its wonderful Brauerei Kraus. Past Buttenheim and its world-class Bierkeller, along by Forchheim and Erlangen and Nuernberg and down, down further south past Ingolstadt and, finally, into the Hallertau, where we'd make a quick stop at the Hopfenmuseum in Wolnzach. Wolnzach is a quaint place, and the museum is even quainter still. Still, it's lovely to be able to pull off the Autobahn for a bit and to hit up a place like this. We walked through the modern building (trailed by a group of U.S. tourists) and learned, among other things, that Bamberg was once home to some of the wealthiest hops merchants in all of Bavaria. Also got to dig my hands into a basketful of Hallertau hops and have them emerge covered in yellow/orange hop oils. Good stuff.

    Grabbed a couple of filled rolls (ham, lettuce, and tomato) from the bakery/butcher across the street from the museum, and headed back toward Munich. On my last trip to Bavaria, I actually preferred Munich to Bamberg, but this time the opposite was the case. Bamberg seemed just like the home I left some 15 years ago. At any rate, we pushed through a traffic jam and made it back to the hotel and the city mid-afternoon. From there we set off to get some gifts for the family...and bide our time before hitting Augustiner (first the Bierhalle, then the Keller) yet again. And, yet again, the slow rain managed to keep the crowds away for a time. Then, around 8:30 p.m., the sun again began to show itself, and the neighborhoods around the Augustinerkeller began to awake and emerge, and we witnessed neighbors greet each other as they arrived for an evening beer and perhaps a bit of food. As for us, we ordered a pair of air-cured sausages each (Pfefferbeisser and Landjaeger) and some fresh Bretzn. Oh, and a couple of Mass....

    We settled in as only settling in is possible at a Bavarian Biergarten, and ended up chatting with a couple of locals. Much to our surprise, they insisted on buying us a couple of Mass and having us there for the night as their guests. Was a great time just sitting and chatting with them, in old-school fashion. No discussions about IBUs or ABV or even about the 100 liter wooden barrels from which the beer was being served. No, just good friendly talk about everything and nothing in particular...what beer talk should be. Around 11:00 p.m. or so it was time to head out. We took a taxi to the train station and headed back from there. I couldn't resist stopping at the same kiosk where, in 1990, I had first set foot on German soil and ordered a Weisswurstfruehstueck at 10:00 a.m. We stood, ate a Kaesekrainer sausage, drank some Augustiner Helles from the bottle, and watched the trains arrive and depart before walking the block or so back to the hotel for our final night.

    Next morning was a blur, with a breakfast of rolls and meat and cheese, a quick drive to the airport, and a final Weisswurstfruestueck at the airport gate while waiting for the flight. Then it was wheels-up and an uneventful, if surprisingly quick, trip back to the U.S. (yes, I did have a few Bitburger on the plane...). All in all, a memorable trip. Hope to make it back soon. Any of you heading there in the near future, I wish you well. Enjoy, and Prost!
     
  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Thanks for that last write up. Got to get back soon.
     
  5. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Is this a common practice with rentals? Very quaint and very neighborly -- I hope the next guests were beer drinkers!

    Oh -- and Augustiner Keller is the best, even in early Spring when the Garten is closed, but the Stube is still open... and still has Maximator on tap the night before Frühlingsfest.

    "Haben sie etwas Maibock?"

    "Nein, aber wir haben Starkbier."

    I ordered a .5L because I was afraid to have a Maß of Doppelbock... silly me, it was so good I ordered another .5 anyway -- and we were walking. :wink:
     
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  6. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I found their food to be quite good in general. The fact that you can get the Heller-Trum beers there is also pretty neat, although I found their almost American-like takes on traditional beers to be a nice change of pace. Not my favorites, but an appreciated diversion.

    Loving these write ups of Herburgess' trip. I'm still a year out from going back, but this is helping :slight_smile:
     
  7. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    Just back from Bavaria myself. Reading these reports brings it all back. I went to quite a few of the same pubs in Bamberg.

    Bavaria is magical place, especially out in the countryside. Munich and Bamberg are great fun, but it's out in the small towns and villages you really get the idea beer is running through everyone's veins.

    Zoigl in the Oberpfalz is particularly special. Well worth the trouble. It's not just about the beer, but the palce you drink it in and the people around you. A good Zoiglstube has an atmosphere like nowhere else I've drunk. Where the part-time brewer and landlord (with the help of his family) serves his neighbours beer in what's really his back yard.
     
  8. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    I've heard this about the Zoiglstuben. Would you say the Kommunbrauhaeuser in Franconia are the same as Zoiglstuben, or is there something in the Oberpfalz places that truly distinguish them?
     
  9. UncleJimbo

    UncleJimbo Grand Pooh-Bah (3,771) Sep 11, 2002 Massachusetts
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    Biggest thing I noticed is the concentration of Zoiglstuben in those two adjacent towns (Windischeschenbach and Neuhaus), though in general only 2 are open at a time. There is nothing comparable in Franconia.

    When I was there last Summer for one night, we began at the place open for that day in Windischeschenbach, which was Schlosshof, and the beer and food were so good, the atmosphere so nice (sitting outside with a small oompah band inside), that we did not want to leave, but we wanted to visit the place open across the river. So we walked over (and up the really big hill) and found Käck'n. We ended up sitting in the proprietor's kitchen at his informal Stammtisch area all night. We didn't leave until 3 am, and his son in law gave us a ride back across the river to our hotel. Amazing night, and I have to go back sometime.
     
  10. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    That's funny. they're exactly the two Zoiglstuben I went to in Neuhaus/Windischeschenbach a few weeks ago. The atmosphere in Käck'n was amazing. And the family incredibly friendly.

    The hill really is a bastard. Happily I managed to avoid walking up it.
     
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  11. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    As far as I know the Oberpfalz is the only place where private individuals still brew beer for sale in communal brewhouses. It's not always called Zoigl. In Pegnitz it's called Flinderer. In Neuhaus an der Pegnitz it doesn't even have a name.

    I don't know anywhere else where you drink in someone's private house. I can't recommend it highly enough. Some of the places are a bit remote but Windischeschenbach has a train station and is pretty accessible. Plus it's ridiculously cheap. A half litre of beer costs 1.60 or 1.70 euros.
     
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