Do (successful) breweries give a damn?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by pumpkinsmasher, Apr 22, 2015.

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  1. Jeph222

    Jeph222 Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2014 Pennsylvania

    In this age of social media, you have to have a Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc account. The breweries may be busy with business/brewing tasks and through triage have relegated checking social media as least important. If they do have a dedicated IT/ customer service person, then shame on them.
     
  2. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    Email is the best way to contact any business in my experience.
     
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  3. jcos

    jcos Pundit (802) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    It isn't the statement and more the method. Email is better than social media, which has 10000x more noise.
     
  4. jcos

    jcos Pundit (802) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    Stannis Baratheon doesn't partake in things of joy...which would disqualify him from enjoying a pint of ale.
     
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  5. jcos

    jcos Pundit (802) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    I think anyone who whines about lack of social media replies by breweries should get 24 hours to be in charge of these accounts for a major brewer and then come back and share their thoughts.
     
  6. SCW

    SCW Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2004 New York

    If a brewery/company doesn't care about their customers (who are paying them money), imagine how they treat their employees, vendors, and community.

    The quality of engagement and interactions should actually improve with scale and success, not get worse. IMHO
     
  7. pumpkinsmasher

    pumpkinsmasher Zealot (527) Nov 12, 2013 New York
    Trader

    I do it for a living with large clients (ones far bigger than Three Floyds and Lost Abbey). It's not that difficult. And I respond to EVERY facebook complaint that comes through. Lost Abbey and Three Floyds both are successful enough breweries to look after their accounts. Heck, Three Floyds can't even look after their phones!

    It's simple...if you don't want to participate, don't open an account! If you do open an account and you don't respond to valid complaints, then expect to be called on it.
     
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  8. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    I suppose I can understand not wanting to reach out to them in yet another channel after the effort you already expended. It just seemed to me like email would be the place to start, since of all the options at your disposal, it is most ideally suited to the type of communication you needed to send.
     
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  9. pumpkinsmasher

    pumpkinsmasher Zealot (527) Nov 12, 2013 New York
    Trader

    In the future if I have an issue (and it doesn't happen to me often by the way), I'll try that route and see how it goes.
     
  10. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    I am 3 for 6 on emails. I have found many company's ignore email. Even for requests on info for their products.

    Interesting is from breweries

    3 for 3 responses when I sent a compliment.
    1 for 2 on requests for information
    0 for 1 on complaining
     
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  11. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    I agree that most breweries should (and most probably do) have these, but IMO social media is mostly used for less "important" things such as release schedules, what is brewing brewed when, and less for direct conversations with the consumers.
    For something like the OP, an email would be the best way to get in touch - with exactly what is wrong, identifications from the bottle (batch number whatever is there,) and so forth. As others said, each social media platform has their own limitations, and just simply the amount of traffic each would get - in twitter, for example, they'd probably have to wade through hundreds if not thousands of "drinking a #XYZ Brewing #ABC IPA #yum #blah blah blah" to get to one specific complaint.
     
  12. jcos

    jcos Pundit (802) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    My personal reply rate to such requests is about the same :wink:
     
  13. ChairmanMeow

    ChairmanMeow Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2015 Michigan

    30 years ago, my cousin (age 18 at the time- and not of legal age) got a bad bottle of strohs. He wrote a letter to them. 3 weeks later a delivery truck stopped in front of his house and left 3 cases of beer. His dad answered the door not knowing exactly what was going on. This story still gets talked about over beers. So Strohs, at one time, cared for customers.
     
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  14. FutureJack

    FutureJack Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2007 California





    Here's what happened (Names redacted) when I emailed Lost Abbey. It's a thread. Start at the bottom. Always send email - preferably to a real live person. I went to LA's website and found a customer service name, emailed that person and a couple days later had a fresh beer delivered (overnight) to my house along with a pint glass. They will always kick ass as far as I'm concerned.


    _______________________________________________________________________________________







    The next email I got was this:




    ________________________________________________________________________________


    This tracking update has been requested by:


    Company Name:

    Port Brewing

    Name:

    Tomme Arthur

    E-mail:

    [email protected]

    Message:

    Thank You! Cheers!


    ________________________________________________________________________________


     
  15. FFFjunkie

    FFFjunkie Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2014 Illinois


    I have been to FFF numerous times and have had only 1 questionable experience. That place can be an absolute madhouse sometimes. Even if there was someone standing by the phone when you called(highly unlikely), they would have seen a phone call from New York and assumed it to be a solicitation of some sort. I didn't even think that they distributed to NY...... I believe the phone line is mainly a prepared voice message to let you know what is available to go for that day.

    I really don't get all the hate sometimes for FFF. I would take a hundred Three Floyd's before another brewery putting out mediocre to garbage beers for the same cost as some world class beers.
     
  16. TMoney2591

    TMoney2591 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,139) Apr 21, 2009 Illinois
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    My experiences have been mixed. When I worked as a beer manager, I sent many e-mails trying to decipher freshness codes and the like, receiving a response maybe 50% of the time (the best coming from a Brazilian brewery, who sent a large response detailing what every bit of their codes meant). As a consumer, I haven't reached out to too many breweries, and have gotten a response from a select few of them. The worst has been Brewmesieter, who never shipped an order I placed with them in 2013, never answered me back about my concerns (this via e-mail and Twitter on a number of occasions spanning several months), and basically stole the money I PayPal'ed them (unfortunately, thanks to a long shipping projection, by the time I knew an issue was afoot, PayPal wasn't able/willing to do anything about the situation).

    In the end, it's not the size or success of the brewery that matters in this discussion, but rather their level of damn-giving in general.
     
  17. hophugger

    hophugger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,434) Mar 5, 2014 Virginia
    Pooh-Bah

    2 Breweries come to mind when it comes down to giving a damn......Sixpoint and Dogfish !!!
     
  18. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    Some I have contacted about issues have been great, some have not...

    Just randomly firing off a quick tidbit isn't going to do much, a well thought-out written word will probably do a lot better.
     
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  19. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Pooh-Bah (2,353) Mar 19, 2012 California
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    I'm 1 for 1. Sent Fifty-Fifty a question via email about their growler policy. Got a response within a couple of hours.

    My personal interaction at various beer festivals or onsite at breweries has been outstanding. In general, I think that this is a minor problem in this industry...
     
  20. charlzm

    charlzm Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2007 California

    I have found that in-person and phone call contacts trump easily-ignored emails.
     
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