Your "aging" collection/method.

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by MadeInTheMitten, Apr 28, 2015.

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  1. MadeInTheMitten

    MadeInTheMitten Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2015 Michigan

    I just recently got into this.. And by recently I mean I have one bottler currently aging, lol. It's a Saturn! But still.. It's one. I'm just interested in hearing about/seeing your guys' collection, along with your methods, and stories! Tell me about that ONE time that you opened that self-aged bottle, and how alpha you felt, lol. I wanna hear it!! I can't wait to drink this Saturn sometime this winter.
     
  2. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    My method's pretty simple. I buy more beer than I can drink.

    But once I realized this "problem," I set up an Excel database to track all my beer, so at least I don't have a bunch of IPAs going bad. I move beer from the cellar into the beer fridge based on a complex algorithm combining age and ABV, so the newest, strongest beers are theoretically always in the cellar. Through slow attrition (that is, drinking), I hope to be able to fit all my beer in the fridge within another year or so.

    I haven't found that aging beer helps most of them at all. So I'm buying a lot less now.
     
  3. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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  4. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,999) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
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    Devil's Advocate here-- my experience is that aging may be good for a few select and powerful beers, but I am dubious. I just tasted a year-old Lagunitas Gnarleywine that was thoroughly unpleasant. I just don't see the reason, unless you have a really atmospheric cave in your basement and want to show off the collection while candles flicker. But home brew from canned extract, I can say for sure benefits from a few months in the cold closet.
     
  5. HuskyinPDX

    HuskyinPDX Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2011 Washington

    Same situation here. Most don't really improve, just change. Fun to try older stuff. I am also buying much less to age.
     
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  6. JouerAvecLeFeu

    JouerAvecLeFeu Pooh-Bah (2,032) Apr 17, 2015 Washington
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    I've found that barrel aged beers - especially bourbon barrel beers - can really improve with age. Some wild ales also age quite well. The darker end of the spectrum (and higher ABV) can cellar for a years. Just recently, I had a 7 year old Stone Russian Imperial Stout that was amazing.

    I keep a spreadsheet as well, with brewer info, bottling dates, ABV, brief description and 'best by date'.
     
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  7. gopens44

    gopens44 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,560) Aug 9, 2010 Virginia
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    Yep. That's my "method" as well, the accidental cellaring thing. The only beers I currently purchase for the sole purpose of cellaring is Samichlaus, Old Guardian and Stone RIS (although I tend to drink odd years straight away....that being said, I still have an Espresso....).

    I do have a little stockpile of stuff I buy for trading / giveaways. Mostly Hardywood releases though...
     
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  8. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Gnarleywine is one of the hoppiest American barleywines out there. With very few exceptions, hoppy beers (especially American ones that use hops that are high in alpha acids) should not be aged.

    @MadeInTheMitten If you're really serious about starting a cellar, buy and read this book: http://allaboutbeer.com/article/vintage-beer-book/

    It's a short and easy read but loaded with info about what beer styles age well and why. He also gives tips on how to keep a cellar and tasting notes on 10-year verticals.
     
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  9. fredmugs

    fredmugs Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2012 Indiana

    Go out and get some Expedition before it's gone. The 2012s I've drank over the winter are amazing.
     
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  10. maximum12

    maximum12 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,686) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
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    Because everyone's palate is different, it's an experience you have to learn by doing.

    I started about eight years ago & through trial & error, found out that there are certain beers I actually like more aged than fresh (Central Waters BBBW, Abyss, Mother of All Storms, BCS, among others) & others that I gave up on because I loved them fresh & thought they disintegrated with age (Expedition Stout, the Eclipse variants, etc.)

    Many people love Expedition aged. I don't. It's such a personal thing it's tough to make generalizations.
     
  11. mattosgood

    mattosgood Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2014 Massachusetts

    It's crazy to me that Bells is something like the 7th largest brewery in the country, but it doesn't come to Massachusetts. That being said, I had the Third Coast this fall and it was amazing. Do you all like it aged? Really kicking myself for not bringing any home (I was in Buffalo for a wedding and left for the airport at 5:00 am and forgot to take a couple bottles because I went to bed at 4:58). Also, ISO: Expedition. Hard to get?

    Cellar collections? Idk. 25 bottles, mostly barleywines, and barrel aged stuff. Add to it every now and again. Drink when someone comes to town and says, "oh, bourbon county barleywine? Let's get into that." And we do.
     
  12. HighWine

    HighWine Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois

    I've been trying to drink down my cellar but have been unsuccessful. Most beers I have are single bottles of something I have been wanting to try but haven't gotten around to drinking yet.
     
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  13. Atom13

    Atom13 Crusader (438) Jun 29, 2010 Minnesota
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    Car, sun, heat, time, trade!
     
  14. Nominoe

    Nominoe Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2014 California

    I did this the other day - yay for Bell's in California!

    To OP: I have a separate mini-fridge where I keep all of my beer. It's set to 45 degrees. If I find beer that I like a lot and think will age well, I buy a few more, wrap the caps in parafilm to avoid opening on accident, and stick them to the back of the mini-fridge. It's easy. I have verticals going of BCBS/BW, Bigfoot, Sucaba, Parabola, Rasputin, Stone IRS, and (now that Bells distributes to CA) Expedition. I have yet to try a vertical, but I'll be sure to properly respond to you with how alpha I feel after :wink:

    That being said, you may experience more alpha by waiting long enough to open your Saturn (or the next beer you put in the cellar) side by side with the next year's version.
     
  15. RDMII

    RDMII Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    While true in most aspects, Gnarlywine is far less hoppy than Bigfoot, Hog Heaven, and a slew of others, and does better over time than most. Avery's Maharaja, a big Imperial IPA, does very well too with two years. All depends on the hops used and how much dryhopping vs. wethopping is done.
     
  16. JuMa44

    JuMa44 Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2014 Pennsylvania

    My method is I was lucky to buy a house with a root cellar perfect for aging beers Bells Expedition ages amazingly for anyone getting into aging beers
     
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  17. Treyliff

    Treyliff Grand Pooh-Bah (5,025) Aug 10, 2010 West Virginia
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    I never meant to have more than 50ish beers in my 'cellar,' that quickly turned into about 600. I very rarely drink more than one beer a day, and I buy a lot more than one beer a day.
     
  18. AndrewK

    AndrewK Savant (1,123) Oct 20, 2006 California

    Gnarlywine with one year on it I could see not being that great, but I have had bottles (and kegs) in the 5-10 year range that were fantastic. I think with that beer if you are going to age it, you have to let the main hop components fall out and take a major back seat to the malt before it gets good again.
     
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  19. BEERschlitz

    BEERschlitz Initiate (0) Oct 13, 2013 Michigan

    I'd say for you it's more likely: Car, Subzero temps, overnight, thaw beer, trade!
    Haha my bro lives in Minneapolis and I always hear about how GD cold it is there in the winter.
     
  20. ttango

    ttango Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2010 Michigan

    Fellow Michigan guy here. I built out a fancy cellar this year. There are pictures in this forum somewhere.

    Try to focus on living ales as they're like wine and more akin to develop new flavors over time. This means primarily Belgians, but there are others too of course. Non-living-ales can develop flavors too. There are no real rules.

    I buy by the case now exclusively for my aging stock. It allows for me to drink over a +/-10 year period depending on the beer- some shorter, some much longer, and also leave two behind for the "trophy case" (i.e. beers I may never drink and probably will pass down). I look for sales and have now committed to pick up one case a month from now on. Meijer had Rochefort 8 for $4.99 a bottle through May 2nd and I snagged a case.
     
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