Pipeworks Beers Not Known Enough?

i'd be curious to see how these mythical shelf wales have changed the midwest cultural demographic (in reviews and otherwise) over the past couple of years. you're referring to a pretty old thread.

 

No homer inflation here as I drain poured one of their stouts.

 

IMO King Henry, Black Note and CBS will do it... they're the ones people seem most bitter about.

 

my post was a half-formed thought. basically, i think the midwest demographic has changed over the past 2 years, with a lot of n00bs coming to play (as evidenced by ft: king henry, iso: 3 beatification threads and the like). whether that translates into a shift in scores is debatable, but that may be one way of examining the demographic transformation.

i think the days of midwest beers being reasonably traded (and reasonably responded to) have passed us by, at least for the time being. so reasonable traders (and raters) would presumably be in a minority.

 

CBS homerism isn't traditional at all. in truth, you're going to see "homerism" (ie "trade homerism"; not "i'm proud of my state!" but "i rate all my local shit high so i can bag WALES!") from founders entire footprint. edit: if not clear, i think "old school homerism" really would be geographically traceable, but we're in a new era. noobs and speculators are everywhere.

in fact, you're likely to see more bitter michigan traders/reviewers mad at founders for releasing (hyperbole coming) a case of beer for michigan when the batch was > 10,000 bottles.

 

2.6 on ratebeer is not the worst of the ratings we've had for the SECOND batch we ever brewed as pro brewers on an entirely new system (not just new to us but a newly designed system as well). There were NUMEROUS things that didn't pan out correctly while breaking in a new system and scaling up from home brewing. If our heads weren't so cloudy from having just opened a brewery maybe we wouldn't have released that beer at all... Anyway, it wasn't a terrible beer (as some raters claim, (nor infected, just way over carbed and over attenuated)) but, it wasn't the beer we intended to make, and of course keen raters can make that connection, since they are thinking of the beer in a different light and will score it as such. [PS StoutFest, not calling you out, but just addressing all the low rates we received on that beer from many sources]

We mostly addressed every issue with the next batch, batch #012 (which isn't separated here) and we are getting the kind of remarks/reviews consistent with what the beer was intended to be in the first place. SOOOO, ;-), if you happened to get a batch #002 bottle and thought it sucked, was too thin, too spicy, too over carbed, not roasty enough... then please pick up a bottle of the next batch (probably next month) for comparison and review, it won't be anything like that second batch we promise =p

We've only been making these beers for a bit over 5 months.... let us get our bottle shop open, and the barrel age program going, +fresh IPA's only in growlers, huge Imperial Stouts, Fruit Beers, Sours.... etc. etc. We are time & money limited on what we can do at the moment... and for being under those extreme constraints I think we are putting out some badass beer. So don't fret, nor jump the gun, I'm sure we'll eventually have some trade worth to keep you traders happy.

 

You have my attention

 

unfortunately if you are speaking of the Binny's closest to the city (Loop, Grand, Lakeview, etc)..yes... any and all those in the suburbs (Algonquin, St. Charles, Schaumburg, etc], not quite..

 

than that's only a handful , i wish it were most....