Just because it's an IPA, doesn't make it "Craft"...or good

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  1. JDW4195

    JDW4195 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Florida

    Hoppy this...hoppy that....stop it, just stop it. I've been saying for years (and echoed in last months print of ba magazine by the way) that IPA's are hipster trendy beer. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure some of you out there actually enjoy getting cotton mouth from a beverage. I'm also sure however, that a large number of consumers out there want to like good beer (and where I come from, it's not called "craft", it's called micro brew) so badly that they go to the store, look at all the shelves flooded with fancy labeled, semi-aggressively named IPA's and say to themselves, "I love IPA, because I drink craft beer and that's what craft beer is." POOOSH!!!!! I don't need hoppy stouts, hoppy brown ales, hoppy ambers, and so on and so on. If the brewery can't make a decent style of beer...hell, we'll just hop the piss out of it and call it "craft" so "Johnny coexist sticker on the back of his prius" will feel like he's exclusive when he pays ten bucks for a sixer of our crap. Stop f'n up my porters and stouts with your filthy hops.
     
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  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Who you talkin to? Brewers? A minority of BA's? Your friends in Florida? (Yourself?)
     
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  3. JDW4195

    JDW4195 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Florida

    Just a general statement...if the shoe fits kinda' thing.
     
    #3 JDW4195, May 11, 2015
  4. cducap

    cducap Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2011 Indiana

    The most hipster thing in beer is to complain about IPAs.

    Congrats. Here is your ironic facial hair, track bike and satchel. You are officially in the club.
     
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  5. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Ahh, well since it doesn't fit anybody I know or the breweries a around here, I'll pass then. Must be a Florida thing.
     
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  6. paulys55

    paulys55 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Somebody has a case of the Mondays.
     
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  7. JDW4195

    JDW4195 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Florida

    Most PA breweries are damn good brewers, they got it right.
     
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  8. JDW4195

    JDW4195 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Florida

    If Monday was an IPA, then yes...I do
     
    #8 JDW4195, May 11, 2015
  9. Kanger

    Kanger Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2013 New York

    I really doubt you would love a stout/porter that was made with ZERO hops...
     
    #9 Kanger, May 11, 2015
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  10. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Just spent a few mins deciphering the OP.

    So what browns/stouts/porters are being over-hopped?
     
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  11. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    Do you really think that breweries are putting out hoppy beers to be hip. I think you are ranting at the wrong group. I am pretty sure they make them because people want them. Just because you do not does not mean they are wrong. Now take a few steps to the left of the IPA's down to the many other styles that any decent beer store has and make room for me to get my IPA off the shelf.
     
    #11 bluehende, May 11, 2015
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  12. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    Probably the ones in my cart.

    The above is probably true. Victory storm king and DFH India Brown probably fit the description. Although the DFH should be pretty obvious considering the name.
     
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  13. jimmyfishkin

    jimmyfishkin Initiate (0) Nov 17, 2008 Wisconsin

    To quote the Dude, "That's like, your opinion, man..." What specific beers are you referring to that are non-craft, but are hopped up to IPA lever and passed off as craft beer? Not taking a jab here, just curious.
     
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  14. AlpacaAlpaca

    AlpacaAlpaca Maven (1,384) Apr 2, 2014 New York
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    This thread would need more hops for me to give it any serious consideration.
     
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  15. JDW4195

    JDW4195 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Florida

    Magic Hat, Lagunitas, Sweet Water...can't seem to make anything that's not hoppy.
     
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  16. ovaltine

    ovaltine Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,787) Apr 6, 2010 Indiana
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    Why not enjoy the magnificence that is beer, regardless of style?
     
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  17. JDW4195

    JDW4195 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Florida

    Here's a perfect example of how breweries are trying to be "hip" with hops. Sam Adams, they're trying to get their "craft" cred back...so what do they do? Come out with a new line of IPA's. I know hops are in everything but, a lot of breweries are going overboard. I'm guessing all you replying here are IPA drinkers. Hey, if you like 'em drink 'em. But, before you completely disregard what I'm saying...read the opening article in the April edition of BA Magazine. They said the same exact thing (well, maybe not worded as eloquently) that I'm saying right now. I've just been of this opinion for a long time, and was glad to see BA hadn't left the wool over their eyes.
     
    #17 JDW4195, May 11, 2015
  18. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Don't get me wrong - I'm not a big fan of overly hoppy stouts. But high westified (for example as it's the most recent Lagunitas stout I've had) didn't seem overly hoppy to me

    I don't buy magic hat

    And I don't think we get sweetwater in NY
     
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  19. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    There are plenty of beers out there for people who do not like hops. They are called Bud, PBR, Coors and Miller in their various incarnations.
     
    #19 pat61, May 11, 2015
  20. JDW4195

    JDW4195 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Florida

    Don't you swear at me
     
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