Why are Saisons so expensive?

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  1. horsehockey

    horsehockey Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2014 Illinois

    I really enjoy saisons in the spring and summer, but for the most part they are fairly expensive. There are a few affordable ones but most are not cheap. This is strange to me considering the origin of the beer. Saison is the working man's beer. Generally the grain bill is less than other styles but it doesn't seem to affect the price. Is it the additions the brewer adds (Brettanomyces, Dry hopping, higher ABV, spices, marketing)?

    Personally I'd love to see a saison in a can. Are there any affordable and accessable saisons in a can?
     
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  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Yeah- the time in the barrel and dealing with the time it takes for something like brett to do its work can make some of them expensive.

    There are some affordable ones in cans, though:
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I homebrew Saisons frequently. There really isn’t anything special about brewing a Saison that would require higher pricing. My guess is that breweries just charge more for Saisons because they can. Most Belgian style beers are more expensive regardless of where they are brewed (US, Belgium, etc.).

    Maybe it is time to consider homebrewing?

    Cheers!
     
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  4. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

  5. Mag00n

    Mag00n Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2008 New York

    If its barrel aged or bretted, it will probably be more expensive because of the time and space required for aging
     
  6. DarkerTheBetter

    DarkerTheBetter Pooh-Bah (2,295) Sep 30, 2005 Minnesota
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    I think it's consumer driven niche marketing, as somehow saisons have gotten a reputation for being something delicate to be sipped out of a tulip. As such, the consumer should pay more for this privilege. :rolling_eyes: There are plenty on the market that don't buy into this garbage, my favorite being Surly's CynicAle.
     
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  7. ivegot3Dvision

    ivegot3Dvision Pooh-Bah (1,810) Feb 9, 2015 Oregon
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    I can't see how saison yeast is THAT much more expensive than any other ale yeast to necessitate higher prices. Saison is one of those beer buzzwords nowadays though... oh well.
     
  8. Andrew041180

    Andrew041180 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    I thought Collette was excellent. I'm going to see if I can find some next time I'm in the store. I was thinking just the same thing recently - that I wished I could find some more Saisons in wallet-friendly packaging. I should probably give Worker's Comp a shot too. Never tried that one.
     
  9. ventura78

    ventura78 Pundit (972) Nov 22, 2003 Massachusetts

    I've got 10 gallons of it waiting to be bottled at home. :slight_smile:
     
  10. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    I'm not familiar with distribution in IL, but I can find saisons in all price ranges and even some in cans. But, as mentioned by @Mag00n the soured or barrel aged saisons are probably more expensive due to extra time/resources the brewer spends, and their marketability is more niche, so if you favor those you might be out of luck finding a cheap regular option.

    You could also explore some american pale wheats because pale wheat and saison are both fairly broad styles with some overlap. For example Bell's Oberon is marketed as a pale wheat, but it has a spiciness and some hopping that I think treads into saison territory and it's in cans. Follow your tastes, not the labels....
     
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  11. swortman25

    swortman25 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2013 Georgia

    Orpheus Atalanta is a real good canned Saison. little on the sour side but verry refreshing
     
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  12. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    No idea how many are canned but I've one that I just picked up that is chilling in my fridge right now:

    http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22150/91189/

    It wasn't any more expensive than the other canned singles on offer at the same shop.

    Haven't tried this one yet, but the other Saisons from Stillwater have all been quite good (and reasonably priced).
     
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  13. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    Stone had one out last year (I really liked it got a 3.54 average rating) and it was the typical reasonably priced Stone...says seasonal release, but I didn't see any this spring
     
  14. deanzaZZR

    deanzaZZR Maven (1,347) Jan 8, 2015 California

    I believe it's in the current Stone mixed 12 pack. I looked for it last night and ended up with the current Sierra Nevada Summer mixed 12. Life could be worse. :-)
     
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  15. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    I'd like to find that here
     
  16. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    Because american beer geeks pay high prices for them?
     
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  17. BH712

    BH712 Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2014 District of Columbia

    21st Amendment has a winter/spring seasonal called "Sneak Attack" that is really great and definitely well-priced (and in a can). Collette is great as well. Boulevard Tank 7 is also excellent but a little pricier. Allagash isn't really worth it IMO. Stillwater Classique is good and canned but a little overpriced.
     
  18. Beef_Curtains

    Beef_Curtains Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2013 Ohio

    I love Sorachi Ace and it's only $9 a four-pack. Tank 7 is a little more but still very reasonable for the quality.
     
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  19. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    In most cases, its the expensive format or mixed fermentation that drives up the price. But straight-forward ones, made with all the same yeast everyone is using, kind of baffles me when I see it highly priced. They are incredibly easy to make and because most of the flavor comes from the yeast you dont really have to rely on other costly ingredients to produce something tasty.

    Maybe saisons are thought of as a premium style of beer.
     
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  20. horsehockey

    horsehockey Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2014 Illinois


    That was my thinking as well. I was just curious about what others thought.
     
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