Instawhales

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by tewaris, Jul 20, 2012.

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  1. tewaris

    tewaris Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Minnesota

    In the recent months (say year 2012), Nomad and Ann come to mind. Have there been others in the past? What are the factors except the obvious ones: pedigree and bottle count/difficulty of obtaining?
     
  2. FalconA

    FalconA Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2011 Massachusetts

    Thread count
     
  3. Levitation

    Levitation Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2009 California

    king henry
     
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  4. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    weird how the same groups of people are always trading for/trading out these insta-whales. It's almost like they set the market value through word of mouth. weird.
     
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  5. tewaris

    tewaris Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Minnesota

    I was counting on you :wink:

    But we all know King Henry is not a whale. If I can land it, it's not a whale.
     
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  6. Steasy66

    Steasy66 Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 Minnesota

    You landed BlÅbÆr for a 6 bottle shipper.
     
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  7. quirkzoo

    quirkzoo Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2011 Colorado

    Seems as though Adam from the Wood fits from late 2011.

    A small number of people actually getting the beer combined with the usual "Well there are not a lot of traders in Portland/rural Vermont"
     
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  8. tewaris

    tewaris Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Minnesota

    Adam from the Wood was already in the database though, and it had solid ratings.
     
  9. quirkzoo

    quirkzoo Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2011 Colorado

    True but weren't the batches ~7 years apart? I guess this is a Framboos situation as opposed to an instawhale.

    I think the "There aren't many traders from _____" still works as a factor when calculating instawhale status.
     
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  10. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah

    '09 Black Tuesday hit insta-whale status before it was even released.
     
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  11. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

  12. gklover1

    gklover1 Zealot (555) Oct 18, 2009 Colorado

    Grey Monday?
     
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  13. hegemonycricket

    hegemonycricket Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2012 Chad

    T25

    It seemed like NC tried to make Event Horizon an insta-whale to hilarious results.
     
  14. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
    Pooh-Bah

    From what I've been hearing that seems unlikely, but who really knows?
     
  15. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    King Henry is at least 400-thread count, and that's quality stuff.
     
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  16. BdubleEdubleRUN

    BdubleEdubleRUN Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2009 California

    That's starting to head toward dugong status.
     
  17. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

    There are only two ways it doesn't become an Instawhale:
    1. They managed to make enough of it that it's getting distributed (no freaking way)
    2. It somehow went so wrong that it's not getting bottled

    Any other outcome, including it tasting like Idiot's Drool, would still make it trade for a ton, simply because of pedigree. Every bottled one-off Russian River sour is a whale. I can't imagine why this one wouldn't be.
     
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  18. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    What about the Churchill's Finest Hour releases?
     
  19. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    much like king henry, i remember when this first hit the taproom, and it wasn't an insta-whale. it was an instant "holy shit, i had this beer and i thought it would be good, but it was GREAT!" beer. [edit: from the posts i read. also had some around that time in boston around EBF, and experienced the same reaction, but this was of course post BT value blow up]

    i don't mean to be too naive with what i read, but i saw genuine enthusiasm for both beers that preceded their huge demand (by days if not weeks).

    to put it another way, subsequent actions by various cali traders or various goose-island's-giant-footprint traders "may have been" (ie were) exploitative/greedy, but the initial demand grew from good old fashioned enthusiasm/beer love.

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    p.s. not to shit on this topic as a whole, but i wrote a long response earlier today and then deleted it after reading it over and thinking quite fervently, "who gives a shit?" (the stuff i wrote about was regarding low bottle count, "ideological commitment," "the fog of manipulative negotiation masquerading as discussion," fundamental market principles transcending opinions, etc)
     
  20. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2007 Massachusetts

    You've just uncovered the BAbor scandal.
     
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