Backing out when finding a beer could be a infected?

I think you answered your own question. If it was a substantial trade for something you really wanted to try, but you didnt do your research, I think the fault lies with you. I know it wasnt intentional and maybe the other person wanted to get rid of that bottle for the same reason, but you made a deal.

I think its good noone had to ship beer- I just hope the other person didnt have to go pick up more beer for the trade, then you backed out.

 

That's quite a conundrum. Let me first say that I really respect that you followed through with the trade and I hope the bottle ends up being world class. In my opinion if the person trading the bottle has any information regarding the infection they should disclose it up front. At that point it's on the person in search of the bottle if they want to take the chance. If it were me trading the infected bottle and the infection info came up after the trade was finalized I wouldn't have any problem reworking the trade. I personally would feel terrible if I sent a bad bottle.

Out of curiosity what was the beer?

 

I probably would have handled it similar to you did, bring it up and if you can't reach a conclusion that both people are happy with then you should probably go through with the original deal.

Typically when I am the sender I take a bit more responsibility because I want people to be happy with what they receive. If a bottle has a possibility of infection, is old, or has any other potential issues I'd probably try and bring that up up front.

 

My apologies. I misread it. I think you handled it as best you could given that you did not find out before the trade was finalized.

 

There's no right way to approach this scenario, IMO. Like most situations, it's between you and your partner to work things out. The outcome is usually the sense you have of what the other partner wants to do and are you willing to accommodate. While you didn't want to go through with the trade, you sensed that your partner wanted you to hold up your end. You went through with the trade, but I really doubt you'd want to trade with that trader again.

The last bit is key to me. If someone I'm looking to trade with has a reservation on a trade that has nothing to do with a better deal, i.e concern about potential infection that I'm personally unaware of, it's NEVER par for the course. I'd be horrified for not knowing AND would voluntarily back out of the trade, let alone making my trade partner ask if he can back out.

Several months ago, I set up a trade between a long-term trade partner and an acquaintance. The acquaintance found out that the beer he was getting potentially could be infected after the agreement was made and the beer has already been sent to me from my trade partner. My partner didn't know that it potentially could be infected and my research showed very little info on that possibility. Regardless, I told my trade partner I'll keep the potentially infected beer and sub it with another beer for the acquaintance. I guess I just didn't want to deal with sending things back and watch the trade fall apart being the middleman. I'd rather be stuck myself with a potentially infected beer than anyone else involved in the trade so my conscience is clear.

 

Please bm me also

 

You certainly took the high road in going through with the trade.

However, trading responsibility is a two-way street. In this case, the guy trading you the beer at least had an inkling that the beer is garbage, but was going to remain silent & risk your taste buds anyways. That is not cool, & not how good traders deal with potential trading partners.

It's a difficult situation, but I believe this is one of those very rare instances where, even though addresses had been exchanged, you would have been justified in backing out. Nobody wants to go through the expense & inconvenience of a trade just to get a beer the other guy knew might be shit in the first place.

 

I'm a little bit confused and it has to do with the infection issue. There is a big difference between a beer that's infected and a beer that is just not as good as you initially thought it would be.

Your bolded question in the original post was, "When you find out before the trade has been made that a beer is either infected or not at all what it was intended to be..." Well I mean, there's a lot of beers out there that I'm sure were intended by the brewer to be amazing, but that turned out to be awful. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that they were infected. You say that you saw some reviews which said that the beer was "disgusting" or was "garbage juice." Did you just draw your opinion that it could be infected from that? Did any of the reviews indicate this could be in play as well?

See what I'm getting at here? If the beer is infected, that's one thing. But if you agreed on a trade for a beer and then just got buyer's remorse because you read some bad reviews about it, then that's a different thing.

 

I hear ya, and I don't doubt that it probably is infected. There's often no real way to tell for sure in situations like this. I was more just addressing the wording of your question and making sure I understood the situation as much as possible.

 

If I was the other trader and you expressed concern over infected bottles, I would have called off the trade. I want my trading partners to be happy with the beer I send them, in this case if I sent them an infected bottle I would feel bad and make good.

Depends on who you are trading with, if you deal with people who only care about winning and maximizing every last ounce of trade value, they may claim buyer beware. If you are trading with someone who likes to share beer and make friends and long time trading partners, they would happily call off trade.

 

If it makes you feel any better, I recently traded for the same beer.

 

But weren't you just yesterday trying to trade this beer off to someone else on another trading forum on a different website? I'm not saying you wouldn't be forthright about potential infection issues with any potential trading partner, but after you've heard all of these issues with this beer, I don't think it's really cool that you're trying to dump it off on someone else now..

Maybe I'm wrong, that just seems like what's happening to me...

EDIT: Actually it looks like you posted an ISO:FT involving this beer on BA as well on Sunday... http://www.beeradvocate.com/communi...ot-either-kriek-or-berry.295494/#post-3681418

 

I mean, you deleted the other thread... in which you posted in a way that attempted to obfuscate the issue by citing various batches, confusion about which ratings pertained to which batch, and general ignorance as to how good/bad the beer you were offering was. For a bunch of beers all having legit pedigrees.

But it is true that I have no idea what you may have told people privately.