IPAs and sleepiness

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  1. RenzoD

    RenzoD Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2011 Washington

    I work evening shifts three days a week and on my Friday I love coming home and watching a movie and drinking a tasty IPA. Only problem is I tend to fall asleep very quickly after drinking them. I have read that it is the hops that do this and hops have even been used in pillows to help people who have trouble sleeping. It seems I am very sensitive to this. Is anyone else out there that experiences this? I would love some advice on what you do to keep yourself awake when drinking hoppy beers. Thanks.
     
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  2. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    This is a just shot in the dark and i'm no expert. But if you're coming late, and its the end of the week, and you're relaxing while watching a movie, there is a good chance that sipping on an alcoholic beverage, especially a heavier one like an IPA (as opposed to a light beer or macro lager) will induce sleepiness.
     
  3. Das_Reh

    Das_Reh Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2013 Florida

    Hops are a natural sedative, similar to chamomile. I think Bob Marley's Mellow Mood Tea contains hops.
     
  4. RenzoD

    RenzoD Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2011 Washington

    Yeah that was really just one scenario. But it's really any time of day. They really induce the beer naps whenever I have them, lunch, dinner, parties, pubs, etc. It may sound nice but it is honestly kind of annoying how sleepy they make me. I also never experience anything like it whenever having less hopped up styles like stouts, lagers, etc.
     
  5. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    And do other beers not have the same effect? What about carbohydrates in general? I feel like thise two are more likely culprits but if not then i suppose hops could be the cause. As a possible solution, perhaps sip quickly so as to finish before falling asleep or run some cold water on your wrists, this will cause a short term drop jolt of energy, then drink the beer.
     
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  6. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I could swear that IPAs make me sleepier than other types of beers and alcohol. Perhaps it is hops' supposed sedative properties.
     
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  7. SCW

    SCW Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2004 New York

    @HorseheadsHopHead

    Hops are a powerful sedative, whereas is alcohol is a depressant. Essentially hops make you sleepy, whereas alcohol depresses the central nervous system.

    Don't think hops have an effect? Try having a couple glasses of wine one evening (and no beer). And then on another night, have liquor but no beer or wine. If you have some self-awareness, you'll see the psychoactive effects are not limited to just ethyl alcohol. The sensations are different.

    Hops have long been known to help with sleep, as even in days of old people used to drink hop tea and put hops inside pillowcases to make you go to sleep:

    http://www.motherearthliving.com/mother-earth-living/sleep-pillows.aspx

    There are strong scientific experiments to document the sedative power of hops. Here one such article:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22849837

    Abstract
    The hop (Humulus lupulus), a component of beer, is a sedative plant whose pharmacological activity is due principally to its bitter resins, especially to the α-acid component 2-methyl-3-buten-2-ol. The mechanism of action of the resin of hop consists of increasing the activity of the neurotransmitter γ-aminobutyric (GABA), inhibiting the central nervous system (CNS).

    OBJECTIVES:
    To analyze in an experimental model of diurnal animal the sedative effect of hop, a component of beer, on the activity/rest rhythm.

    METHODS:
    Experiments were performed with common quail (Coturnix coturnix) similar to humans in the sleep-wake rhythm, isolated in 25 × 25 × 25 cm methacrylate cages, with food and water ad libitum, in a room with artificial ventilation (22 ± 1 °C) and a lighting cycle of 12L/12D (n = 5). The doses administered, close to the content of non-alcoholic beer, were 1, 2 and 11 mg extract of hop as one capsule per day, at 18:00 h for one week. A control group received capsules only with a methylcellulose excipient and a basal group received no treatment. The chronobiological analysis of the animals' activity captured and logged by the software DAS24 was performed using the Ritme computer program (cosinor methods).

    RESULTS:
    With the dose of 2 mg, there was a statistically significant (p < 0.05) reduction of the arithmetic mean nocturnal activity (23 ± 3.0) with respect to the basal (38.56 ± 2.79), control (38.1 ± 2.8) and other doses groups 1 mg (52.04 ± 3.65) and 11 mg (47.47 ± 5.88). This dose of 2 mg, similar to the concentration in beer, was more effective in reducing nocturnal activity than the other doses of 1 and 11 mg, as well as preserving the circadian activity/rest rhythm.

    CONCLUSION:
    The concentration of 2 mg of hop extract effectively decreased nocturnal activity in the circadian activity rhythm. On the basis of this investigation, administration of non-alcoholic beer would be recommended due to its hop content and consequent sedative action, which would be an aid to nocturnal sleep.
     
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  8. Relik

    Relik Zealot (603) Apr 20, 2011 Canada (NS)

    great question. Do Stouts or Imperial Stouts have the same effect? You might want to look into lower IBU range beers pales ales or hybrids or lagers or belgian blondes.
    Might want to take a nice jolt of caffeine before you consume or get home from work or before you do any drinking.
    As others have said hops are a natural sedative and alcohol is a depressant so without something to counter balance those effects.

    damn @Sixpoint beat me to it
     
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  9. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I figured as much, but I wasn't sure if it was entirely scientific or if it may have been old wives' tales. Thank you for providing more detailed information.
     
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  10. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Note that the cited study also seems to suggest that a "moderate" dosage is needed. The higher dosage used did not produce the sedative action.

    Looks like it should be "one and done."
     
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  11. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    I've made Hop Tea and usually gave me the "Calming" factor after two glasses....bless those little Bitter Green Boogers!
     
  12. 31Sam13

    31Sam13 Initiate (0) Sep 29, 2014 New Hampshire

    You will find hops in a lot of herbal sleep remedies...
     
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  13. Dil_thebeerdrinking_do

    Dil_thebeerdrinking_do Savant (1,192) Jan 21, 2014 Georgia
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    alcohol, its the alcohol.

    *why do you think Nyquil works so well?
     
  14. SCW

    SCW Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2004 New York

    @Shroud0fdoom

    yup, and the study was done on quail too - so hard to determine what a moderate dose for a bird would be! ;-)
     
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  15. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    :-)

    I think you mean "moderate dose for a human." :wink::stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  16. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    FYI, there's also a good chance you're looking at an interaction between the effects of the hops and some modest disruption of your biorhythms created by the irregularities of your work schedule. There are some reasons to believe that if you worked a more regular pattern it would be less of a problem.

    http://sleepfoundation.org/sleep-topics/shift-work-and-sleep
     
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  17. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    I bought a pound of whole flower Columbus Hops a few years back. Just by breathing in the "Cheese" (Gold Resins) I felt calmer...I'm ADHD and others noticed a difference in my behavior. In my Hop Tea I would use only a few grams per 8 ounce serving. It was fun while they lasted.
     
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  18. Darwin553

    Darwin553 Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2009 Australia

    For every mouth full of IPA beer, have a swig of a rum and coke or Red bull. I mean it looks to me that you would be falling asleep no matter what beer you are drinking.
     
  19. AntG21

    AntG21 Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2014 Syria

    C2H6O.

    Just a wild guess.
     
  20. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    :-)

    Well if your wild guess is correct, shouldn't it be happening with all beers rather than just IPAs?
     
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